• Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]
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      782 years ago

      We have to be careful with the way we speak if we don’t want to alienate people. So: Will we deny reparations to black and brown people, or will we deny them to people of color?

  • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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    392 years ago

    I did think about this a few years ago and opted for 👍. I feel a little weird when I see the white reacts used by others. This is not so much of a problem anymore but Slack/etc used to not stack the reacts, so if everyone was thumbs-upping you’d have a bunch of different ones instead of just one count and it made voting with 👍👎 more difficult. If nonwhite comrades tell me they prefer the white ones I’ll switch but I suspect nobody gives a shit.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      72 years ago

      Asian here. If a white guy came to me and gave me some 20 minute analysis on why white emojis are racist so that’s why he doesn’t use them, I will assume he’s a trust fund neoliberal and advocates for genocide in third world countries. I am not kidding. Take that as you will

      • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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        That would be excessive, but everything we do sends a message so it’s reasonable to consider how the message might be interpreted. What do you think when you see a yellow emoji without a 20 minute unprompted analysis?

    • Cethin
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      242 years ago

      I’m white, but I’m also fairly confident no one gives a shit. The Simpsons colored one isn’t to be “raceless.” It’s just the default. It’s for anyone (not just white people) who don’t care to broadcast their race to people or just can’t be bothered changing it. This article is a solution looking for a problem.

    • Blep [he/him]
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      When i used slack for work it like automatically collected the different skin tones together

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    632 years ago

    I use an Android with gboard so I only use giant combo emojis. If you aren’t using these you need to be. It’s the one thing Google has done right in like 20 years.

  • uralsolo [he/him]
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    322 years ago

    Idea: require phones to take a picture of the user’s actual hand before they can use hand emojis.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      242 years ago

      /r/blackpeopletwitter (?) asked for photographic verification at some point to deal with the racist KKKrakas. The rest of reddit-logo got predictably mald.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    This is radlib quibbling through and through, but I want to add a refutation anyway:

    There was discussion before on this site about how nominally white people shouldn’t identify with whiteness. Isn’t this an example of that, however trivial? Unless I’m a racist, why would I ever want to go out of my way to further identify myself with whiteness? I won’t deny that my experience is one of being white and in fact want to be transparent about it, but that’s not the same as wanting to append “as a honky” to every statement I make. That’s White Pride shit (i.e. shit)

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      I feel like it will always be a catch 22 with no right answers on an individual level until racism has been dealt with structurally. As a white person, you cannot be ethically pure in the world as it is, even though obviously something like this is really trivial

      • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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        162 years ago

        As a white person

        In all seriousness, how do I tell if I’m white? I keep thinking about another user’s example of Assad. He appears white-passing, but his name, religion and nationality would each be enough for him to be considered non-white in the US.

        And is a case like that one where it actually matters to what extent the person identifies with whiteness?

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          It’s funny. Most of my great grandparents wouldn’t have been considered “white” in their early years in America, yet here I am, undisputably white. White Hispanics are another one that feels kind of nebulous. I also saw a clip of an Irish comedian saying he visited America and he doesn’t have white guilt because in Ireland “we planted the potatoes, and then dug them up ourselves

          In conclusion, whiteness is bullshit and needs to be destroyed.

          • synae[he/him]
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            32 years ago

            Then there’s the Irish who left for America because there weren’t any potatoes to pull up (not edible ones, anyway), were discriminated against but eventually their descendants were accepted into the white hegemony, and nowadays benefit from American white privilege.

            That’d be me, and I definitely have white guilt and will not by using the white power emoji.

            Plus I’m a huge Simpsons fan 👍

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        132 years ago

        Yeah, I’m not saying it’s a perfect retort but I think in this case it’s pretty clear that snow roaches using the yellow emojis is better.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      92 years ago

      jesse-wtf I swear. If people talked to me about this shit IRL I would suspect them of being a federal agent more than someone talking about blowing things up

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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        22 years ago

        Frr seriously, that take feels like a surefire way to create dozens of separate interpretations and a thousand confused, circular arguments between them. Instead of just having people admit the obvious, they’d rather we go the long way and alienate each other unintentionally. Not good for much else.

    • Mokey [none/use name]
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      I think its one of those liminal things, sorry for using that word. You shouldnt identify as white because its not a thing but theres no going around the fact that your skin is white and the rest of the world perceives you as white.

      I feel like I mostly buy into this but I also don’t believe in the radlib sense of endless guilt, wokescolding and apologizing for it.

      You should use the white skin emoji is written by someone who works from home and never leaves the house. All their interactions are through social media.

      Like, there should be spheres of communication and they dont all overlap with eachother. The shit you say to your IRL friends doesnt make it out to your public Instagram page because you cant make the same type of qualitative and quantitative social agreements on the broad internet space that you can with your IRL friends.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    872 years ago

    As an Asian person, am I supposed to use the yellow emoji or the white emoji if that’s closer to my actual skin tone?

    Please help me crowdfund to get an answer from America’s foremost emoji raceologists.