• @i_am_a_cardboard_box@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Is c level a motorcycle or an e-bike? I’ve never seen an icon for an e-bike before, and if it is, I am loving the conciseness of the design. If not, there’s no way a motorcycle is better than a line bus right?

    Just a bonus note from a Dutch guy, the text just below say lekker blijven likken, or: ‘just keep on licking’.

  • @Transcriptionist@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Image Transcription:

    A sticker attached to a pole with a QR code in the top right corner. Down the left side are the letters A to G on coloured tags with arrow-angled right ends, and under G a black coloured tag with HELL written on it, in the style of the European Union’s energy efficiency labels found on appliances. Each tag ranges in colour from dark green to red and increases in size the further down it goes. Each arrow end indicates a different silhouette.

    The A tag is dark green and very short, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of a walking stick figure.

    The B tag is a slightly lighter green than A and slightly longer, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of a bicycle.

    The C tag is light green and slightly longer than B, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of an moped.

    The D tag is yellow and slightly longer than C, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of a subway train.

    The E tag is orange and slightly longer than D, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of a car.

    The F tag is orange-red and slightly longer than E, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of a yacht.

    The G tag is red and the length increase from F is almost triple that of previous length increases, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of an airplane.

    The HELL tag is black and longer than G, the arrow end points towards the silhouette of a tank.

    [I am a human, if I’ve made a mistake please let me know. Please consider providing alt-text for ease of use. Thank you. 💜]

    • Iron Lynx
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      2 years ago

      So some errors:

      • the C tag points to a silhouette of a moped, not an e-bike.
      • the D tag points to the silhouette of a subway train, not a bus. You can tell by the wheel sets.
      • most egregiously, the F tag points to the silhouette of a yacht

      EDIT: As pointed out in one comment, it’s the F tag pointing to a yacht, not the G tag. I corrected the post.

      EDIT2: Our transcriber has updated their post to reflect the changes. Well done good person! 👍

        • Iron Lynx
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          22 years ago

          … good point, I’ll correct it. The one pointing to a yacht is definitely not pointing to a train car, that was the point.

      • @Transcriptionist@lemmy.world
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        22 years ago

        My bad! I had a lot of trouble with this one, I’ll admit. Thank you so much for the information, I’ve edited my comment. 💜

    • @okamiueru@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      The only subtle detailed you missed, which is not surprise, is that Sweden and Norway (not sure which if the other skandies, maybe this is a EU thing, hm) use those letters, with those colors, and those arrows to indicate energy efficiency rating. So, it could be a nudge at the relationship between reducing emissions or suffer consequences of global warming, which will eventually lead to famine and war.

      • YMS
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        32 years ago

        In real life, the system is screwed, and vehicles are not measured just by their energy consumption, but by their energy consumption compared to other vehicles of similar weight, so in the end there are heavy SUVs with much better ratings than compact cars.

        • @bob_wiley@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          This is one of the reasons why car companies love selling SUVs in the US. They have looser emissions standards.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆
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    2 years ago

    Where do monster trucks lie on this scale?

    Actually, serious question: How do most of you feel about car sports? Like if we managed to get a world where cars are not a necessity would vehicular sporting events also be purged? I’m not much of a race fan, but demolition derby and monster truck shows are fun.

    • @space@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      62 years ago

      The pollution impact is fairly small and a lot of innovation happens in those competitions that might end up in ordinary vehicles.

    • @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      Motorsports are cool. And their contribution to pollution is negligible compared to wider vehicle use as well as more accountable.

    • @Mandarbmax@lemmy.world
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      132 years ago

      Nah dude, care can be really cool toys! I fully support Nascar, demolition derbys, monster trush shows, old car collecting, etc.

      I just don’t want cars to be the main way to go places, let alone the only one as it is in many places! It is bad economically, it is bad for people’s health, and it is bad for the environment. Using cars for entertainment though really isn’t an issue, nor is using them in situations where the alternatives don’t work as well.

    • anonymous
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      162 years ago

      The community is, I believe, about eliminating car dependency. Basically, it would be an ideal world if you don’t even have to consider owning a car to participate in society. Car racing is like the difference between mountain biking and riding a bike around for your commute. There are worse practices than racing cars.

  • @MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    How is a moped better than a tram?

    Edit: I mean for the environment, I’m sure mopeds are better than trams in other ways - like for doing tricks and making quick runs to the supermarket to get bread and milk

    • @SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      22 years ago

      I read that as an electric bike originally but now I wonder if you’re right. Mopeds are definitely better than cars but I doubt they’re better than trams.

      • @MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works
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        22 years ago

        I wouldn’t say Mopeds are “definitely better” than cars. Theyre only designed to carry one or two people.Their engines generally aren’t as efficient as those in cars. A moped carrying one person is definitely better than a car with only one person in it, but if the car is full, then it might be the better choice.

  • @Gsus4@feddit.nl
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    2 years ago

    Bikes are actually greener than walking, because if you need to move, they allow you to have a greater daily range for a not much higher footprint (more efficient and 3 times faster).

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        2 years ago

        Embedded CO2 for a bike is like 100kg (that’s what 4 trees in your backyard absorb a year), which over a lifetime of 30 years is negligible.

        • @tomi000@lemmy.world
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          162 years ago

          You say negligible, but what you mean is negligible on a scale of the CO2 emissions we are used to. Human body CO2 emission is just as negligible on that scale.

          Ill do some quick maths: According to the first source on google, an average human burns 3kcal/min walking and 5kcal/min biking at 15km/h, which is about 3x as fast as walking. Considering that, we arrive at a difference of 1.33kcal/min by walking instead of biking. Estimates suggest 1.3g CO2-equivalents per kcal for average consumption (much lower for vegans), so thats 1.73g CO2/min. 100kg CO2 for bike production would take 57,800min of walking, thats almost 963h. An average bike will probably be used more so I guess you are right and bikes are indeed more efficient than walking :D

            • @tomi000@lemmy.world
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              12 years ago

              I agree, but the question at hand was not whether one or the other was negligible, but which is more efficient: walking or biking.

      • Adori
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        42 years ago

        It’s faster to make bikes than legs

    • @doingthestuff@lemmy.world
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      102 years ago

      It’s also really green if you die riding one in places where it’s completely unsafe to ride one like where I live. You eliminate your carbon footprint completely!

      • @knotthatone@lemmy.world
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        62 years ago

        I was so excited to finally live in a city where I could actually ride a bike to work most of the year until I actually tried it.

        Drivers are assholes, have no awareness of their surroundings, the rules of the road and they give zero shits.

        Nope nope nope. I’ll walk to the train

        • @doingthestuff@lemmy.world
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          22 years ago

          I lived somewhere with trains half my life ago, it was very nice. I have no trains or buses or sidewalks or even a shoulder on the road. Just fast two-lane curvy backroads with a ditch on the side.

          • @knotthatone@lemmy.world
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            32 years ago

            I’m talking about running stop signs, gunning it at yellow lights, not using turn signals, using turn signals but not turning, swerving into bike lanes and flinging open their doors without looking.

            Infrastructure like protected bike lanes and robust public transit so fewer people feel the need to drive are great, but bad driving is bad driving.

    • Calavera
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      32 years ago

      I can say the same about public transportation

  • @PickTheStick@lemmy.world
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    32 years ago

    Weird that the longer bars are worse. It’s a cognitive flip, even if what it may represent (carbon footprint, maybe? Fossil fuel expenditure?) is growing with the lower tiers. Oh, and whoever made the poster missed the fantastic opportunity to use Heil! instead of hell.