I love asking UK, especially English, people this question; the answers vary wildly. Once had a Londoner describe the north as “anywhere north of the M25”.
So, lemmings, where is ‘the north’ to you?
Chesterfield is one of the points which is 50/50 northern and southern resulting in a real midlands feels.
Here’s a relevant map men video about this very matter.
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The Midlands do exist! :P
above the belly button
Draw a line from the Bristol Channel to The Wash. That’s the line.
North of the thames
Those bloody Northerners in Westminster!
Yep, whenever I cross Dartford bridge I always comment to my wife that we’re currently in the Midlands. She doesn’t find me funny…
There’s definitely a Middlesex joke to be had crossing the Thames at some points.
Sheffield and above is North, Cambridge and below is South, in the middle is Midlands, lines are a bit wiggly.
A lot of people just think about wealth/poshness and tend to think only in terms of proximity to London.
Living in the North of Scotland and listening to people referring to anywhere north of Watford Gap as “The North” will always elicit a raised eyebrow from me.
Oh my sweet southern children, what do you know of the true north? Where the sun hides it’s face for weeks at a time…
Northerners are basically Scots, Scots are basically Vikings, Southerners are basically French
The Wirral is very strongly Viking influenced - there’s a Thingwall, after all.
You do realise York comes from the word “Yorvik” and that ze French never made it that far north, right?
I was going largely by geographic proximity rather than conquest. Also if you’re suggesting that Yorkshire is in the South then they won’t be happy with that!
If we consider GB as a whole, you’re still in the southern half of Great Britain until you get almost up to Carlisle. Manchester, Liverpool, Yorkshire etc. which are all considered “up north” are very much south of this.
Once had a Londoner describe the north as “anywhere north of the M25”
I mean, London’s a big city but I’ve never heard any Londoner say this in all my life living there. It’s always been “comedians” usually Northern ones as a cheeky insult to Londoners: “Oh look they don’t even know geography”. Which, to be fair, we probably don’t.
Personally I’d say anything North of Sheffield is da Naaarth. Roughly anything above Wales.
This would mean that Liverpool isn’t in the North, and Manchester just barely squeaks by (though most of Manchester is at or below Sheffield Latitude). They all dance around 53.3-53.5^o Lat.
Roughly anything above Wales.
Roughly my friend, roughly.
Anywhere north of me is the north. I’m in North Wales.
Well I live in the absolute middle of the Midlands, so anything north of me is “The North” and anything south of me is “The South”.
Simples.
For me the North is where you play tig, the South is where you play tag
Where I come from, we played It. Pretty sure that was the south, even south of Thames.
Yorkshire and up for me
North of Northamptonshire, as someone in the South
I drove past Watford Gap yesterday, that felt like leaving the South.
North of the Thames. This means I can claim I moved from South to North.
In actuality the line is somewhere above Nottingham but below Stoke.