If I can play videogames in my head while I’m at work, great. If my addict dopamine brain gets highjacked so that I don’t know how to do anything except consume ads then bad.
It will be the latter, and if you complain then people will call you a “privacy nutjob” because it will be considered normal
“Experiencing life without the chip is like stealing content”
I can hear it now
thats so true. “no-ones forcing you to get chipped (unless you want to work or buy anything or enter a mall or …)”
PC parts can’t even go few years without losing backwards compatibility (e.g. cpu sockets changing every few years). Last thing I need is for my physical body to incompatible with the newest and best stuff because I got a permanent implant when the tech wasn’t as evolved. This will always be the problem with invasive technology in my opinion.
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That’s a cable standard. Imagine being stuck with usb 1.
Even that wouldn’t be unworkable, it would be worse if you’re stuck with the brain equivalent of serial ports just before everyone switches to the USB standard.
So I have a cat chipped 15 years ago, and she can still operate modern devices with it - open doors, get food from a robot.
Not all tech goes obsolete fast, there are legacy compatibility layers!
There are chips that make cats smart enough to operate doors and robots? That’s so cool!
No, the doors and robots have to be smart enough to operate for the cat.
Source: Have a microchip cat door.
Please don’t insult cats, it’s cats who are smart enough to know how to use their chips! Robots and chips just react as they are programmed.
Cats are already smart enough, they just find it easier to access the technology using their chips.
I think human brain implants might be a bit more complicated than chips for pets.
Yeah but keeping them backwards compatible is gonna be much more important as well
If it is advertised well, it will be the same as with smartphones nowadays. Companies won’t plant chips into human brains, people will pay to have chips planted into their brains and pay even more for yearly upgrades.
The only way I would accept a microchip is if they implant it deep in my ass with a huge cock
Based.
Elon wants to know if you’re free tomorrow night
I think in a perfect world it could be really cool
In this one however it’ll just be exploited
Could it be so cool that it’s worth making the world perfect?
Yea, “companies” shouldn’t. But I want a computer in my head eventually, so I can be a cyborg.
What? Why WOULDN’T everybody let the guy whose latest genius idea in a stunning sequence of brilliant business decisions was squeezing every twitter user for money in a service they previously got for free implant hardware into their brain? It’ll be just like a tesla: automated driving available next year since like 2010 or so (assuming it doesn’t fall apart, run over the elderly or burst into flames) in a hyperloop near you!
There is a non-zero chance that once they have a chip in your brain, they will find a way to stream ads in to it.
For that reason, I’m out.
Why stream ads when they can more-directly influence you?
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Hello You, come CloZer
Waking up with an unavoidable craving to watch “OW! My balls!” I’m in!
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There is a long list of legit and or cook reasons to have a microchip in a brain. Controlling or assisting damaged brain structures, you can mitigate the symptoms.of Parkinsons, give vision to a blind person… but I also think the cool parts van be nice and probably are inevitable. Being able to communicate in your head, that sort of thing. I see it as something that will happen and people WILL do it.
Also, who do you think will make these chips? A fairy? Of course companies will (and already do) make them.
I think instead of screaming NONONO we should start thinking about what rules your any such companies to follow. Maybe have the design schematics be open source. A hard “off” button, somehow. A ban on ads and tracking (in combination with the hard off)
Yeah there are very start things possible, doesn’t mean it has to be like that
Medical usage is different from the general public and when, not if, someone figures out an exploit, u can bet I’ll be glad I never got one.
Yeah, what is this meme? Like I get Elon is a douche. But I mean where do people think deep brain simulation and things that help tons of people already come from? We even have implantable devices that can record seizures directly from the brain surface and generate electric impulses to disrupt them. Not to mention pacemakers, spinal cord stimulators, etc. All these things have quite a lot of regulatory hurdles before reaching market. Obviously want to make sure that framework stays strong so no dystopian nonsense down the line happens. Once we get to the level of consumer grade brainchips, then I’ll start to worry.
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Alright, we’ll just rip the implants keeping patients seizure free out of their heads and tell everyone with Parkinson’s sorry, brain implants have to be removed now, go back to being frozen. Saying we can’t use a technology because someone might do something bad with it someday could apply to literally any technology.
Or are you proposing getting rid of legal frameworks and regulation of medications would improve them somehow? Just let big pharma go realky wild? Strengthen our regulatory frameworks by all means, stop regulatory capture and all that, but an unbridled free for all with big pharma allowed to do, sell, and say whatever it wants about its products sounds horrific. I think you’re right to think the fda may have gotten a little too lenient with some approvals lately, but that’s an argument for stengthening the regulations not getting rid of them.
But yeah Elon isn’t allowed to sell this shit yet, and people have to elect to be involved in any trials. It’s their choice. If he ever tries to sell it, he’ll have to prove efficacy and safety. Without that regulatory framework he wouldn’t need to do even that, could just immediately launch it and lie about the capabilities a la tesla auto pilot, duping and killing a bunch of people likely.
the dystopian plan
You should watch less tv, do less internet, and go outside a bit more
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Even with consumer grade brain chips, the risk isn’t a bit thing until there is a direct interface and even then it’s a question of what it can interface with. And even then it’s a matter of good design. Some hardware off switch would be a basic requirement, but also software firewalling would be a very basic requirement.
Interfaces, if done right, should not have to be a dystopian future, we won’t become the Borg just bectof some implant somewhere
People should watch less tv.
“Should doctors implant microchips in people’s brains”. Is the question, and the answer should be 100% between the doctor and patient.
I have a big brain, so I refuse all microchips. I won’t settle for anything less than a macrochip.
Time for a megachip
they just shove a laptop in your skull
“A small microchip about the size of a postcard”
Like a pringle the size of a pool tarp
Unfortunately, Robotron went out of business.
Given how big corpos are already fucking up the job market due to AI, it’s not such a good idea to go all in with cutting edge technologies right from the get-go
The job market evolves, you either evolve with it or you don’t. What do you think these implants are for? Lmao.
This isn’t just about the job market
Life is more than work, you fucking drone
Exactly, life is more than work. These brain implants have the potential to give a lot of people a lot more in life.
Not under the control of capital
You write like a tween who doesn’t know what they’re talking about
I’m so offended, I think I’ll sit in a corner angrily whilest thinking of what you did to me
New thing bad!!1!
This is the same argument people use against vaccines.
New thing could become mandatory in a future and give governments direct access to our eyes, thoughts, hearing…
Smart phone tracking would become a joke in comparison.
We could also all be living under a social credit score system like in China, but most of us aren’t. Just because something could become our reality, doesn’t mean we should avoid all progress in that field.
But Smartphones are tracked and hacked by governments. And it is legal in most cases. And people are killed by governments.
the government only ever kills bad people, right? its not like laws will ever change
In the end it doesn’t matter if it’s legal or not. They will do it anyways. Like it was the case with Preditor and the Greek government. Or Pegasus and Mexico. In the case of Pegasus and Mexico, people actually died.
true.
[…] we should avoid all progress in that field
Who said that? Because I did not
Do you always take things way further then they’ll ever go? It’s pretty much blatant flanderazation at this point.
further then they’ll ever go?
It may or not may happpen, but there’s a potential.
Not really.
You’re the kind of person that cannot be argued with, but that doesn’t imply that you hold the truth.
Lmao, sure pal.
Seems like young adults are becoming old men, calling the new gimmicky tech thing that hit the market that’s supposedly evil.
The thing is, vaccines work pretty well, but letting some already corrupt asf corporation (or any entity) implant a microchip in your brain is obviously a bad idea. Please do a favor for yourself and the human race by sitting down for a few minutes and asking yourself: “what could go wrong?”.
Personally, I think the technology has great potential. But under capitalism? Fuck no.
Gimme open sourced brain chips and I’m in
You are now required to use the command line just to think.
Can you imagine getting stuck in vim?!
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Yes. Democratically produced and managed
Lol i would say no under any system.
There are legitimate, helpful uses for such technology
Yeah, for example as a coder being able to conjecture code just by thinking it would be magical.
to do that with someone’s brain would be a nightmare, stray thoughts would fuck up the code and it would take forever to make anything comprehensible
Exactly. And the potential for VR and total immersion development. Thinking things into existence. The art people could make from pure imagination. A real metaverse.
I was thinking more along the lines of “Oh, this will make my legs work again!” or “This chip bypasses the damage done by [horrible brain disease] allowing you to reclaim some significant percentage of functionality”
That is another clear benefit, yes!
I’m convinced that the Neuralink is the dumbest idea ever, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s better for people to just learn the hard way. Like, it’s so obviously stupid that anyone who’s still going for it cannot be helped.
until it becomes the new mobile phone, and anyone who doesnt have the Chip™ is an outlier. i dont think this is likely, but it is most definitely possible
I’ve thought about it and I’ve decided that I can live with that. Besides, I don’t think it will make it to that level of popularity before “the incident” that shocks everyone and triggers a senate inquiry.
Either there will be horrific side effects or Musk will cut quality or make an ‘executive decision’ that beams ads into everyone’s head. I don’t know the final implementation, but I think they won’t resist the temptation to make the firmware up-gradable remotely, and once they have that, they won’t resist the temptation to meddle.
