Would they have all still fought against him?

  • PreparaTusNalgasPorque
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    302 years ago

    I think the whole 50% depopulation is a flawed premise, of the hundred of thousands of years modern humans have existed that would throw total population back to… 1970

    • @swordsmanluke@programming.dev
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      Yup. His movie motivation was dumbed down. The whole resources thing is stupid for exactly this reason.

      In the comics, Thanos became infatuated with the Marvel Universe incarnation of Death. …And naturally he figured that if he killed half the universe at once, he’d get her attention. (cause girls love it when a boy makes a huge amount of work for them…)

      Anyway, his plan was still moronic, but “manchild does stupid thing to impress girl” is a classic for a reason.

    • @Dalvoron@lemm.ee
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      There is an addendum to his plan that might have made it make sense. If he had said something like “I’m giving the universe the chance to make better decisions”, suddenly having half as many people means (probably a little more than) half resource consumption, half the carbon emission, and more time to figure out and implement solutions to these problems. I’m not sure how the housing crisis would pan out, I expect it would get worse. It also makes more sense that he destroys the stones after “I gave the universe its chance, now the ball is in its court”.

      This also solves the doubling resource problem. His motives are to pressure people to change their ways. Giving them more stuff might cut hunger, but you’ll just have that hunger again in 50 years and we’d probably increase carbon output to boot, and destroy more environment to get these doubled resources.

      I don’t know enough about the stones to say whether “infinite resources” or whatever cheat code would have worked, but they certainly could have dropped a line that it wasn’t possible, or that it would cause more problems than it solved (how does chemistry even work in this universe? If nothing ever gets used in reactions then the chemistry that makes our bodies work is borked)

      But anyway, as the Russos did not put this line in, the premise was flawed

    • deweydecibel
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      It wasn’t just humans, it was the whole universe. He wasn’t concerned with how each individual species’ populations would fluctuate, he just had a solution in his head and went with it.

      Ya know, the “mad Titan” thing.

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    Avengers would have been much better prepared. T’challa, Hank, Janet, Dr Strange could have all helped plan the response. Bucky, Sam, Hope, Peter Parker could have all helped execute the plan.

    Also Scott since he wouldn’t have been trapped in the QR.

    Drax and Quill are still goners. The rest probably aren’t snapped.

    Vision, Gamora, Loki, Heimdall unchanged since they died before the snap.

  • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
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    2 years ago

    Hang on, do you mean “with the least capacity to be smart,” or is he killing all the babies and children?

    • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      See this is why I hate when people are like “just watch this 20 minute long video!” The video just restates what you said in one sentence that took me 5 seconds to read. It states it over and over again, slowly, interspersed with reading long quotes, slowly, for 20+ minutes.

  • @Drusenija@lemmy.drusenija.com
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    102 years ago

    What would make this question more interesting is can you think of any metric where they would flip, or at least consider it. For example, all the members of Hydra (a bad example, would never make 50%, but you get the idea).

  • @Crackhappy@lemmy.world
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    152 years ago

    I don’t think the hulk would have reacted at all, since he’d be gone. But does that mean Banner would stay somehow?

  • @Poob@lemmy.ca
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    Thanos was a fucking stupid character in the MCU. The human population is currently doubling every 61 years with a growth rate of about 1.14%. Assuming similar numbers across the galaxy, he didn’t do anything except cause suffering. He’s a very poorly written villain.

    I guess to stay on topic, they would have looked at population growth, and determined that his plan was moronic, and fought him.

    • ivanafterall
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      It wouldn’t shock me if Hawkeye disappeared. But then again who’d notice?

      • @morphballganon@lemmy.world
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        Clint isn’t a stupid guy. In the show, he’s hard of hearing, which some people might mistake for being dumb if they saw him on the street, for example. But remember how scary he was in The Avengers. Guy could shoot an arrow into the wind and knew it would blow up an engine. You know there’s some crazy subconscious math going on there. Also, his counter-terrorism rampage in Endgame wouldn’t have been nearly as successful if he wasn’t a great planner and tactician.

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          Also, his counter-terrorism rampage in Endgame wouldn’t have been nearly as successful if he wasn’t a great planner and tactician.

          I hadn’t considered this. You’re right. This is a man with no powers whatsoever. Meticulous preparation was essential. A mindless killing spree would have been suicidal.

          This makes that scene much more unsettling.

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      I can’t think of an Avenger or even sidekick who I would put in the bottom 50% of the earth’s population. Even the dumbest are probably in the top 10-15%.

      Edit: I didn’t really think of GotG as “Avengers”, but yeah, Drax and Mantis are probably gone, unless they’re somehow smart for their species. Or unless emotional intelligence is enough to save Mantis. I don’t know if we ever find out enough about Groot to know, but I’d assume he’s in the top of his species. I still think everyone else survives (Hulk survives via Banner, or at least Banner survives).

      • SuperDuper
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        Draxx believed he was invisible if he stood still, he even thought he was invisible while eating a bag of chips. I’m not sure he’s gonna make it.

      • @DudeBro@lemm.ee
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        naw I’d say Drax, Starlord maybe, and Hulk if he was in Hulk mode are all written to be comically stupid

        but yeah that’s probably it, most would survive

        • @MajorHavoc@lemmy.world
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          There’s a lot of generosity toward Thor in this thread. And I think that’s great.

          Even though he’s going to rule Asgard someday, while his brother is clearly more qualified. /s

      • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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        102 years ago

        Drax isn’t stupid, he’s just hyper-literal. If it comes off as stupidity, it might be poor writing or some assumptions made.

        • ddh
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          He’s not just hyper-literal, he is slow to adapt, rarely displays any strategy beyond direct attack (which gets them into trouble repeatedly) and, you know, thinks he can’t be seen because he’s very still. Drax is loyal and courageous, but intelligence is not among his gifts.

  • pwnicholson
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    622 years ago

    They’d still be appalled and try to stop him given their strong moral code. And given that they’d be at full strength they’d probably find a way to stop him and reverse things faster than they did in OTL

    • @MajorHavoc@lemmy.world
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      And given that they’d be at full strength they’d probably find a way to stop him and reverse things faster than they did in OTL

      Good point. But I dunno. Thor is a big power loss, and unless Captain America gets a free pass for emotional intelligence counting, they’re short in leadership, too.

    • RBG
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      132 years ago

      You think none of the Avengers is in the “dumb” 50%?

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      I’m frankly astonished anyone could genuinely think the Avengers would ever somehow be more ok with letting Thanos kill “only the stupid people”. Like…that’s a very strange read on these characters to think they’d ever react any differently in this scenario.

      But even if they were so morally and ethically bankrupt to think it may not be such a bad idea, the truth is killing “the dumber 50%” is still causing catastrophic secondary effects. People would lose loved ones. That’s enough of a reason to go Avenging.

      Hell, how are we defining “dumb”? Because you may have just murdered every child under a certain age.