The US about indigenous Americans.
Oh wait, they made hundreds of movies about killing them.
That really is one of the most absurd things about the American Empire. They’ll come and destroy your people, taint and corrupt your land with bones and blood, bomb you back into the stone age, and then make a trillion dollar budget film about how it made them feel sad. The othering is so powerful that emotions only exist within the walls of capital
But I wouldn’t blame this. The people making the movies hasn’t been in common with the crime.
Not to be pedantic about a meme but I would consider the US repeatedly detonating nuclear weapons on the Marshall Islands and then doing jack shit to clean up the mess to be worse than any coup.
67 of them to be exact. 70 years later, the Marshallese are still the ones paying the price of that incredibly bad decision.
It’s just weird that nuclear bombs came to your mind, but somehow the nuclear annihilation of two civilian cities was less salient to you than uninhabited islands.
The two uses of nuclear weapons in Japan were horrible. It’s been long debated whether or not that choice vs. the invasion planned was the better of two. I won’t get into that.
What is more horrible is that instead of staying shocked at the potential of nuclear war, humans in every nation that could tried to make more and bigger ones…for defense, of course. And the islands weren’t originally uninhabited, that’s a nice story of forced relocation for the humans. The wildlife, not so much. That was the point of the post, the history of nuclear arms post-Japan is far worse than the first two bombs used.
Fair that the cities were worse, but the islands were not uninhabited. The people there were evacuated (they were told temporarily) and the place they were evacuated to was still within the fallout zone. A lot of people died pretty much immediately and they’re still dealing with increased cancer and birth defects today.
This was when these weapons were fairly new, and what little information we had about them was not given to the people of these people before they were pressured into allowing their islands to be testing grounds.
“MEN OTEMJEJ REJ ILO BEIN ANIJ” — “ALL IS IN THE HANDS OF GOD” — were the words uttered by Juda, leader of the Bikinians, to Commodore Wyatt when asked to exile his own people for the “good of mankind”. It is said that Juda’s words were intended to imply, “It would literally take divine intervention for me to agree to this.”. Nevertheless, the Bikinians would be taken from their homes, and as the ships sailed away, the Bikinians got to watch their many-generations’ houses and boats get burned down by the American soldiers. Many of the Bikinians wouldn’t eat after witnessing that, and they would live in poverty in their new homes.
It’s no wonder, then, that the Bikinian flag looks like a desecrated American flag.
This isn’t to say that Bikini was a more inhumane act than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hearing any recollection by survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or seeing any of the artwork that they created to process their experiences, makes that much obvious. But you hear about Hiroshima and Nagasaki: it has a place in the popular imagination, even if it is a heavily sanitized version that portrays the annihilation as “necessary”.
In contrast, when’s the last time you met someone who knew of “Bikini” as anything other than swimwear?
In contrast, when’s the last time you met someone who knew of “Bikini” as anything other than swimwear?
Not sure as it seldom comes up in conversation, but I knew.
I don’t live in the US, but I’ll try to ask around about it anyways. It doesn’t really come up in real-life conversations for me either.
Feel free to ask. Switzerland answered: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergier_commission
I wasn’t aware of the creation of this organization. Thank you for educating me.
Don’t ask OP about the use of prepositions
I’ll add one more:
Don’t ask Pakistanis about Dhaka massacre.
Don’t ask the UK anything about their troubling history with black people or slavery unless it’s to mention that they were one of the first countries to stop making black people property. They get really mad if you mention anything but that.
Do we fuck
The finns about what their country was like in 1920-1945
What do you mean don’t ask the UK about African interment camps?
Our lovely Tory government spent most of last year proud of trying to deport asylum seekers to fucking Rwanda. Like it was some sort of vote winner.
I think it’s unfair to suggest that the UK Government doesn’t like you asking about African internment camps.
They also don’t like you asking about:
- the conditions under which refugees are currently housed, give you a clue it kind of rhymes historically with internment camps
- Various Indian famines that were caused or exacerbated by colonial rule
- role in slave trade. Yes they ended the slave trade… by compensating slave owners. Also started the fucking thing.
- That time we basically stole an entire island from its people to put an airbase there.
- linked to the internment camps, pretty much anything Churchill did prior to the Second World War and after it also.
- the undercover activities of the police investigating environmental groups e.g. having children by the people they were surveilling.
There’s probably several pages of this but I’ve only just woken up.
The British Empire once covered over a quarter of the Earth’s land area. Even the Mongols never managed that.
And by “once”, it’s not ancient history. It was 1920.
It’s horrifying, and we’re almost certainly responsible for more suffering than any other country on Earth, but also kind of impressive. There are just 22 countries we never invaded.
We could also blame UK for the existence of USA
Don’t look at us, it was the Spanish that found it.
Well, after all those people that were already on it, obviously. But they hardly count. They weren’t white. But according to Americans, neither are the Spanish, so…
What about the boers?
And the Kenyans. The English developed concentration camps in South African and used them in Kenya during the Mau Mau rebellion.
I mean they were great as footballers but honestly both don’t cut it as managers
Lmfao genocides and student protests that turned violent are the same thing
We should make this list longer
At first I thought you meant perform events that would add to the list.
And fix it so it makes sense…like putting never ask as the image title so the other entries ACTUALLY make sense
imagine believing tiananmen square is in any way comparable to the rest of this list. OP showing their whole ass
Death to America
Found the Tankie
WuMao
Hundreds, thousands, millions. It’s all the same because people died and the people that died weren’t white.
mao could give a kid cancer and youd spin it somehow, deluded
what do you mean 300 deaths isn’t in any way comparable to thousands/millions of deaths during the Holocaust, Aremnian genocide, Bengal famine, Operation Condor or Japanese occupation?
But you are currently admitting it happened, right?
yeah buddy, ya got me. the cia’s attempt to overthrow the communist party of China failed, but succeeded in getting a few hundred people killed. not exactly the Holocaust libs love to claim it was
Death to America
Hand check
Smooth-brained western Chinese apologists is not what I was expecting from the future of the internet even 5 years ago. Our atrocities are totally cool, eh? Nice.
yeah, next the internet will be defending Iraqi incubator babies or Saddam’s people-shredder.
also, very rude of you to assume im a mayo western cracker.
What is a western China? There’s only one China.
If you try act like a redditor and go “its what i call taiwan” then you’re literally bumbling around like a drunken dipshit who insists calling the United States “Northern Florida”. Although if we’re to make more accurate historical inference, it would be apt to say you’re the equivalent of those “The South Shall Rise Again” cross-burning confederate dipshits that never shut up about the massive L you took
They mean Chinese apologists from the west.
I for one am not apologizing for much of anything really. Mistakes have been made but the party has grown from that and critiques those. None of these are what these anti-chinese people are saying though
No, it is true. US tried to stir up some trouble and it didn’t work. That is import to remember the people that dies because of US greed
Atrocity propaganda is a real phenomenon used by westerners to inflate problems of non-western societies and deflate the genocides done by the west. You’ve fallen for it
The US Walk of Shame was much worse than the Coups
How a person reacts to being asked about the version of these things most close to them is telling. If they get defensive and deny the event happened, I would hesitate to trust their opinion on other things. Clearly that person bases their opinions on what they want to be true rather than reality. That’s the kind of person whose ideology would likely lead to another event to be ashamed of. If, on the other hand, they admit it was a horrible thing and agree that people should be educated on it and that steps should be taken to prevent it from ever happening again, then I’m more likely to take their opinion seriously and believe that they can be part of the conversations we need to happen to create a better world.
The Australian’s about their treatment of
aboriginesfirst nation AustraliansThe Irish about mother and baby homes.
China about Uyghurs
The one that confuses me, is the statement about the Irish.
Ask them about their tax avoidance schemes for big tech
I guess you could say ask the Catholic church about Irish mother and baby homes. But the meme was doing nations.
Blaming the Catholic Church is a good way to start but the argument that Irish people were led astray by the Church is pretty much the same argument as those who seek to divorce the Wehrmacht from complicity in SS atrocities. In both cases the answer is that they shared vital infrastructure with each other and ranking officials could have stopped the excesses, which they had full knowledge of, if they’d have disagreed with it.
australia has much more shit going… like storing asylumseekers in some far away islands
“aborigines” is not a great word to use these days. It’s generally seen as pretty offensive to Indigenous Australians as it’s a bit dehumanising and comes from colinisers who treated people like animals.
Better to go with “First Nations people”, “Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people” or “Indigenous Australians.”
But yes, they’ve been treated (and in many cases continue to be treated) pretty horribly.
Thanks. I kinda knew it wasn’t great, but didn’t know the correct term.
Yeah that used to be used as a racist way to refer to them
Russians about Crimea and Donbass
Didn’t a bunch of Muslim countries actually ask China about Uyghurs (and even visit Xinjiang) and they left unanimously content with the response?
Yes. The only country worried about it is the same one that’s actually killed millions of Muslims over the last 20 years
They only did it to bring them democracy!
Well yeah, of course I’d trust the experts in genocide over countries that have no experience.
Israel or America?
Yes
I bet they did according to Xi and the CCP, but not in reality.
Even if they did, they’re probably faking it because trade with China is more important to them than human rights, just like the US and Saudi Arabia or the other Western countries and the US…
should be easy enough for you to provide a legitimate source to this claim.
please note the word “legitimate”
The other reply to this post provides a pretty legitimate source.
But, well, it’s not exactly hard to Google.
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