I’ll start:
- Some significant portion of funds go towards development of the Lemmy software. 80%? Rest goes to lemmy instance hosting.
- Ads are reasonable and non-intrusive (no popups etc)
- People can still browse w/ an adblocker
I personally would gladly turn off my adblocker if I knew the ads were supporting development. Hell, I might even click a few!
I don’t mind ads as long as they’re not following me around. Show me ads based on the community that I’m browsing or something if you want better targeting
If a website needs ads to thrive, it needs ads to thrive. I don’t look forward to playing the role of both the beggar and the chooser. As I explain here, under the exact circumstances of today, I’m not afraid to say I’m judgy when someone mentions adblock usage.
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Different things work for everyone, especially depending on the demographics. That’s an administrative thing, I am a guest.
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Suppose you encounter a property. It says “no trespassing” on it. However, it has no security, and you realize under no circumstances will there be consequences if you snuck in and did whatever you want, not even disappointment, even though a sign specifies it would be frowned upon. Would that make it moral?
When people modify an experience like this, they’re always thinking of themselves. If people could cover billboards along a road with toilet paper, I’m sure they’d do it, even though there’s a reason they’re there. It might be a weird place to redirect to, but someone explains perfectly here towards the end. A place’s choice of maintenance is a part of its boundaries. Being courteous is the least one can do.
That’s a faulty comparison for so many reasons it’s hard to pick where to begin tbh.
It says in the TOS that ads are a thing and will remain a thing. If they gave me a button that makes them poof, it wouldn’t change that.
There is a lot of nuance here you seem to be glossing over or maybe aren’t aware of. I don’t go out of my way to block YouTube ads as-displayed (usually videos) because the relationship with the actual ad is very clear. However, I do use a VPN, little snitch mini, and other extension/software when I am browsing YouTube. Just because I clicked on your website does not mean I willingly consented to your vacuuming every little detail about me to then package and sell to other parties or leverage to “better serve me ads.”
ToS aren’t a moral imperative, they aren’t even legal one. Companies are welcome to try within the bounds of the law (which they regularly break mind you) to learn info about me. And I am within my rights to make that information as opaque as possible. It is not a moral duty to let Google figure out someone’s menstrual cycle or who you plan to vote for simply because you looked up a cocktail recipe or something.
I’d rather just donate.
What if people who donate no longer see ads? Problem solved.
then it’s not really donating
No, this is rewarding the implementation of ads and can’t be thought of as donating anymore. You are paying to remove ads thus giving them money for having added ads to the site.
It all sounds like semantics to me. You could implement donations first and then say OK for all you people who haven’t donated we’re going to punish you by showing you ads. Bottom line is this shit isn’t free. It has to get paid for somehow.
What if the ads are optional, they’re turned off by default, but if you can’t afford to donate but still want to support you can turn them on for yourself?
Would you do that? I’m asking genuinely
Tbh yeah, as long as the ads weren’t malicious or intrusive I’d happily have ads if it supported the instance
I’m happy when an instance owner just says how much it costs to run a server, how many people actually manage it and how much time they spend to keep it running. I also like it when they just come out and say “we need this much money to keep things running every month, every year, etc”
Then I just donate and there are more a dozen ways people can send and recieve donations.
I don’t mind paying for things and services if the person or people I’m donating to are just honest about what they need and why, especially if it’s a service I use often.
Same, but sometimes it’s not possible due to the different payment methods that don’t work the same accross different countries.
It’s unlikely ads would bring in any significant amount of money from them se people, in that case.
Nah. I don’t plan to ever have ads. Hardly any users so my nice little single server will be fine for years to come and I can afford it no problem. If somehow I got a lot of users, I’d likely just close registration rather than ads. I hate ads!
In my view, the problem isn’t monetizing an instance, but that ads right now are fundamentally problematic. I don’t know of a way to introduce ads that wouldn’t be intrusive, invade user privacy, introduce bad motives for admins, and just be generally unpleasant. If money is a problem, I think a subscriber model would be better suited for the platform rather than taking any step to normalize ads.
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I’d be okay with devs promoting their own FOSS software, etc. And seeing donation buttons every now and then. No trad ads plz. We have enough of those.
I think for a shitpost instance a custom ad network banner ads with memes and shitposts would be make sense. What I mean by that is that on geocities as well as some small internet sites there’s “custom ad networks” where they basically rely on donations and or just random people submitting “ads” that normally tend to be just links to their site, weird obscure memes, animal pictures, etc.
I think real ads for the sake of advertising on lemmy wouldn’t really be acceptable in any form, but shitposting ads have potential imo
That sounds great. I remember seeing really old sites with these.
I would block that instance.
If you want to market, buy physical billboard space.
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none, unless airline ads but way prefer no ads
Never
Everyone sucks at business. Everyone. Businesses is an art form. You can do anything you want with it.
Check this out. Free isn’t a real thing. You cannot build a site in your free time and then give it away for free and expect people to pick up the slack.
You need to charge people. So you need a secure way to handle information and payments.
NOBODY wants ads anywhere anymore. It’s mind poison from another time.
Creator owned platforms is where its at.
Nebula.tv is a great example.
If you cannot figure out a pay schedule then hire or collaborate with someone who does.
None. Dont need ads on my own instance
