cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5717757
Today’s story is about Philips Hue by Signify. They will soon start forcing accounts on all users and upload user data to their cloud. For now, Signify says you’ll still be able to control your Hue lights locally as you’re currently used to, but we don’t know if this may change in the future. The privacy policy allows them to store the data and share it with partners.
Ooh I can’t wait for the new Philips Hue® lighting monthly subscription service, where with a low fee we can access all of our standard lighting IOT with the basic subscription plan and colored lighting with the premium subscription!
Let the enshittification begin.
But now you’ll never be able to set your room to Baby Yoda Green, Mando Mauve, or New England Patriots Nautical Blue during the big game!
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Folks who don’t owe Hue might not realize how close to home this hits. They have a bunch of official Star Wars shit in their Hue Labs area.
Don’t forget to light up your feed with our new vibrant social media section!
I’m gonna vom :P
They can sell colors and themes as DLC! Cosmetics for your home!
They could also have lootboxes you could buy with HueCoins, a new and shiny blockchain backed in-game currency. From the boxes you would get different colors you could use to decorate your home with. Then you could also use the existing colors to craft new ones. If the RNG wasn’t in your favor, you could just buy the colors you want. It’s a win-win for everyone!
Every day you log in, you get a free lootbox shard, and when you have 3 shard, you can craft a lootbox for free. With a higher login streak, you get more shards too.
stahhhp
Oh, we’re just getting warmed up here. Didn’t even mention the system of upgrading HueCoins to different tiers, decaying crafting materials, convoluted system of currencies in each tier, upgrading lootboxes, upgrading the RNG etc.
Yo, what if you could own Red! Be sure to get the NFT of your favorite color!
Damn…halo Infinite beat you to that.
I tried to play this game yesterday. Guess what? Requires you to sign into a MS account to even start the game. I don’t wanna live on this planet anymore.
I think they’ll start with: pay us or it’s lights out. Then walk it back to something that sounds slightly more reasonable.
LIDL is selling a bunch of “smart” crap this week including a “smart” kettle. According to the blurb “Can be linked to the Lidl Smart Home System using your WiFi connection”. And I’m thinking yeah and what possible reason ever would I have for needing that? And the same is true for most smart products.
Actually, having hot water for tea or coffee ready when you wake up is one of the few really good use cases.
First ‘public’ webcam stream was of a coffeepot to see if it was full or not, so more folks agree with that. How about making a cup in bed and then walking towards a fresh cup, it’s as if you had a very specific morning butler. I’m aware this is not a need (and I don’t have or need it), but it’s desirable for sure.
I have an adblocker for my home connection. By far, Hue subdomains are the most common blocked ones.
Philips Hue sends data to servers every few minutes.
How do you have this set up? Is the blocker software on your PC or is it a raspberry pi?
If you want it to block IoT and other device connections, you have to pass all network through it.
Adguard Home or Pi Hole, in a device that, indeed, can be a Raspberry Pi.
Is it that chatty because it keeps trying because you block it and it retries a lot?
It’d still be calling home without it, but maybe not as much as it seems?
Not necessarily. Sometimes I turn off the adblocker for days and still have the requests when turning it back.
Remember, just a few years ago when the latestagecapitalism sub was created and everybody was like ha ha you lefties, and now every single big corporation is self immolating in 2023… good times!
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and now every single big corporation is self immolating in 2023
The overwhelming majority of people simply do not care. So no, they’re not self-immolating. They understand that people don’t give two shits.
and now every single big corporation is self immolating in 2023
I think that’s overstating it a smidge. I don’t see there being much impact for many of these companies beyond schadenfreude for those of us watching. Twitter’s going to die, but since Musk obviously doesn’t care it takes a lot of the satisfaction from it. Most of these others - I doubt it’s more than a blip.
Not that I don’t agree with and cheer for your overall point. I just don’t think most of this is moving the needle in any direction.
Just listened to the audibook version of this not that long ago. This is the kind of shit they should be teaching people about in school now.
oh wow. i have the GE cync bulbs, everyone says hue is better [which may well be true, the cync app is complete ass + trying to connect / troubleshoot] but maybe this evens things
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There’s a lesson here somewhere, but I’ll be darned if I can put my finger on what it might be.
On reddit I’d be linking /r/stallmanwasright
Because, despite all his flaws, he’s been very right about the dangers proprietary software poses to user privacy, user control, and general user interests. This is but one more thing to toss on a pretty big pile.
My favorite video covering the core concepts in a fun, cartoony, 3 minute long way for anyone who has never been exposed.
!stallmanwasright@lemmy.ml exists, but it could use some more GNU/activity.
GNU/activity.
LOL!
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as activity, is in fact, GNU/activity…
The light switch?
Hue can go fuck yourself, Phillip
Signify actually
Isn’t that just a Philips subsidiary?
Philips Lighting is a separate company since 2016. In 2017 Philips owned 41% of Philips Lighting, but since September of 2019 Philips no longer owns any shares of Philips Lighting / Signify.
TIL. Thanks! Weird that the app is still called “Phillips Hue” though. Probably a matter of time.
isn’t hue a kind of vietnamese soup? bun bo hue?
Hue is a city in Vietnam. It’s where bun bo hue comes from.
Just get a bulb pre-flashed work either Tasmota or ESPHome. (ESPHome integrates well into home assistant, Tasmota is otherwise a bit more well rounded, but they’re both great)
This is a great innovation by Phillips, and it follows rule 8 from my best selling business book, “12 rules for business”.
Rule 8: The business is always right - never give customers a choice when you can dictate the terms to them instead.
Sounds more like the Rules of Acquisition to me.
I don’t think that is an actual rule of acquisition but it damned well should be.
Does that mean they’re abandoning zigbee and not adopting Matter/Thread?
They’ve already adopted matter.
Lately it is getting more like we are not just the consumers, we are the product. It is very uncomfortable.
Lately?
It has been the case for well over a decade but for free web stuff. Philips Hue lights are expensive and still they pull this shit. That’s something that just started quite recently.
No it’s been awhile but people still spread the bullshit remember if your not paying your that product. But that hasn’t been true in awhile there are tons of things you pay for that still spy on you.
No it’s not.
Phones have costed hundreds of dollars or even over a thousand and have been doing this for over a decade.
This was the final push I needed to switch over to Home Assistant and their hub. I needed a simple plug and play solution and Green delivered.
Migrates the lights, curtains, and will migrate more.
Fuck proprietary hubs and technology, and fuck me for buying into that shit in the first place.
Open source Matter/Zigbee/Zwave when?
The HA SkyConnect does Zigbee and will eventually add Matter support. Z-wave needs a separate dongle, though.
I’ve literally been in the process of migrating all my Home Automation from SmartThings to HA over the past couple of weeks. I have a mix of Zigbee, Z-wave, and WiFi devices. The HA side has honestly been easier to set up than SmartThings was in the first place.
I’ve also been working on getting some cameras set up with Frigate and Coral object recognition. That part has been more involved, but I’m pretty happy with the functionality so far.
I’ve definitely been happy with my decision years ago to stick to devices using standard local protocols. Has made the whole process far less painful than it could have been.
Funny enough, one of the few things I have that uses a proprietary hub/app are my Hue bulbs – they were my first dip into home automation a decade ago. I haven’t ditched the Hue hub quite yet, but moves like this definitely make me more inclined to.
The Hue Hub (for now) has a nice and easy REST API to control the lights.
This is extremely informative. Yes, I got the SkyConnect and it’s working flawlessly.
I meant I wish we can see a FOSS alternative to these propriety standards.
Same here tho. I started with Hue and now I’ll just keep their lights fuck their hubs and accounts and cloud.
Going forward I’ll buy whatever as long as it satisfies what I need and connects to HA Green.
FOSS for the absolute win!
I built my own, based on https://github.com/rmd6502/esp_lights
Iwish I had the time
This is also a really good resource. I’ll take a look and save it to my to do list!
Thanks!!
