I provision and ship the iPads we use for trainings at work. Today I shipped two identical boxes, one over 2000 miles to rural California, FedEx 2nd day which cost $8, the other about 1000 miles to a town in southern Saskatchewan. That one cost $45. I know customs is a pain, but that’s a stark difference for whats ultimately a shorter journey with 100% fewer mountains between here and there
Is that reflective of the fact that the largest cost in transportation in the industrial world is labor so less traffiked routes require more labor per package-mile? In this case, its like a 11x economy of scale to California. So maybe not.
No it’s just the cost of cross boarder. FedEx Express shipping for a small package with volume discounts costs $8 to go to an office or $14 to go to a residence, and I’ve yet to make a label for anywhere in the continental US that deviates from those values.
Every order comes with more organs though. You just have to think of the first one as an investment.
Not only that but they’re also inflating the actual meal prices. I’ve noticed that the same item at the same place costs different when I go in. They also don’t care if it’s ann Uber order and you’re gonna get a half assed attempt
Yeah, it’s way higher because they take a big chunk of the meal cost too.
Plus there’s all the shady “takeaways” that are just somebody’s house. I’m sure some of them are very nice, but I’m not playing rat shit roulette…
That’s because they charge the restaurant as well, so the restaurant puts a higher cost on the food to cover it.
And yet the postal worker probably gets paid more despite you paying that much for uber eats.
unions
Not only do they make way more per hour worked but they also get healthcare, paid sick leave, and a retirement plan. A gig worker is precariously teetering on the edge of disaster with no recourse if they are unable to meet their required daily deliveries to pay for living expenses.
USPS workers are paid very well, even beyond the 100k mark.
What’s next, riding the bus being cheaper than calling a taxi?
And that’s why I don’t use doordash, maybe if I was rich but, when you were counting every dollar, you can get your ass up.
These days I don’t even have pizza delivered to me, I will get up and get that shit.
The only time I have had it delivered lately, for a few times when I was too sick to get up and make my own soup so I just ordered some pasta from Domino’s instead. App makes it so easy
The AC is out in my car and I live in AZ so I’m pretty happy to pay for convenience for a month or two lol. I can’t deny it’s a useful service I just wish the drivers and restaurants benefited the most instead of the scummy middleman
I love watching people realize private courier services are expensive. It’s kinda gross watching them throw tantrums when they realize they can’t afford it.
Postal service is a service. Uber eats is a company.
Your organs will grow back, don’t worry. Unlimited organs!
It’s a combination of economy of scale and flexibility around time. The USPS sorts massive volumes of mail and packages, then delivers by the truck load. With food delivery, you get a piping hot meal delivered by a dedicated driver. That said, still overpriced by the companies.
$30.50 seems inaccurate. If you’re tipping 20% then you ordered at least $150 worth of food lol.
Fuck Doordash, fuck Uber Eats, fuck Skip the Dishes. These greedy motherfuckerswant me to pay a delivery fee, a “convinience fee”, AND up charge me on my food, and act like triple dipping into my pocket isn’t a fucking crime. Then they have the gall to tell me that waiting an hour and a half for my food while my driver sits in a random-ass parking lot to receive luke-warm food is acceptable delivery time and service and ask for a fucking tip.
And worse, no one wins! The restaurants hate it because they’re paying fees out the ass and receiving hate for the delivery services failures, the driver’s hate it because they’re not being given a fair wage, and the end consumer hates it because they’re paying literally 1.5x the cost of already inflating food prices! The only winner is corporate of whatever company you’re using, all to save you a, what, 10-15 minute drive?
Fuck em’, I will hop in my car and go pick up my food every single day of the week. I’m never too lazy to tell a bullshit service like those to go fuck itself.
Fuck the whole thing, and especially the tipping bit. You want a trip, read the subreddit /r/doordash, (back when I was on reddit that is). Some greedy ass MFs live in there swapping stories about how they’ll gladly turn down jobs because the tip wasn’t high enough.
Like what, am I supposed to tip you 30% just to have my food delivered? Fuck that. Tipping is supposed to be a thank you on top of it, not a bribe to convince you to do your job. Tipping should come after everything where I can decide how well you did. There are horror stories where they’ve texted asking for a higher tip and worse yet holding onto the food demanding a higher tip or the people don’t get their food.
You’re exactly right, I just get my ass in the car and go get it now. It had a purpose during covid, but now they can go pound sand. Last time I did it was exactly the same as yours, I watched my food get assigned to a driver who sat for a parking lot for 10 minutes before deciding he should go pick up my order (which was fast food, and ready immediately, and sitting there getting cold).
Those people are doing that to make money, if I see a trip that’s 20-30 minutes total of driving but only get $4-5 for it, I’m declining it. If you think that makes me greedy, then I’m glad you’ve had such a privileged life.
That’s placing your anger and low pay on the customers, not the corporation that’s holding 50% of your profits. You want to be mad, be mad at them, refuse to drive for them, demand a better share.
My last meal from door dash breaks down as:
Food: $58.80 "Delivery Fee": $3.99 "Service Fee": $8.82 Tax: $7.34 Tip: $8So sorry I didn’t want to tack on any more to my $85 dollar order for 2 people. “Recommended tip” would have put me over $95 dollars. Let me put it this way, if I paid $85 dollars for a delivery order and you only made $8, we’re both getting screwed.
The fun thing, I’d be willing to tip more if they didn’t ask for it up front. If I received my order in a timely manner and it’s still hot, I’d gladly tip 20%. But being forced to choose ahead of time? No way I know how it’s going to get there, that’s why I call it a bribe. The driver isn’t doing their job and I’m tipping them on a job well done, I’m bribing them to get my food quickly.
Granted that was the last time and I was disgusted with how much I paid, so I go and pick it up myself now, so I guess no money for anyone except the restaurant.
If you’re only getting $4-5 dollars for 30 minutes, I’d suggest going to McDonald’s. They’re paying better than doordash.
I wonder if there could exist a solution for services like these, but decentralized, as to cut out the greedy middleman as much as possible. I mean, lemmy sort of is the application of this concept. Sure, there’s still costs with running servers etc., but the protocol regulates much of the interaction.
The company (Uber, Instacart, etc) is basically:
- An app for drivers/shoppers.
- An app for consumers.
- The servers to facilitate communication.
- A subcontracted call center in India for support and customer service.
- A third-party payroll processor.
- A handful of administrative people and techs to keep it running. Plus some shareholders to take the money.
So not counting drivers and contracted services, it’s practically a small business. Seems easy enough to emulate.
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maybe just cook a few times a week yourself
As a former driver I agree. I always feel bad about the tip thing but gas is so expensive and the apps pay like shit despite charging so many fees. And knowing that restaurants also pay a fee meaning the apps get MORE money is even more infuriating.
Socialized system vs capitalized system: The capitalist comes in and uses their venture capital to undercut the socialized system so that people stop using it. Once the socialized system loses interest and funding or are otherwise out of the picture, they they jack their prices up way higher than the original and because they’re the only game in town, they get to keep those record profits in effective perpetuity.
This is just about efficiency. Postal (including UPS / FedEx) can plan the route ahead, stack parcels with as little space as possible, and deliver hundreds of packages in a day. UberEats doesn’t know when will order show up, doesnt know when will order be ready, it can deliver maybe 2 - 3 orders in a row, the route planning is just in time.
Tell me how is this only explainable by socialized system.
You literally explained why that’s the case in your comment, how do you not see it???
Are you trying to imply UPS/FedEx is a socialized system?
USPS is you fucking moron.
Average american. Don’t you know? Capitalism is when good and when not good, that’s
communismsocialism.Socialism is when the workers own the means of production, not when the government does stuff.
Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more it does the more socialist it is, and if you do enough of it, that’s communism.
Boy, in this thread I really can’t tell where the sarcasm ended and the bad faith began.
I’ll give you a hint. The comment you just responded to is a joke made by actual socialists about what liberals think socialism is.
I make it intentionally hard to tell where I line up politically so people get punished for trying to find out if I’m on their side instead of just addressing the point i’m making.
So you didn’t read the meme then? Can’t you see no one specified which postal service vs Uber Eats???
I don’t recall any socialized courier or food delivery services.
Could you imagine? Food delivery apps nationalized then delivered through the USPS?
I am sickened but intrigued.
Sickened? Why? What did food delivery app companies ever do for you?
Republicans helped the couriers prevent USPS from competing. The 2006 law they passed mandated that USPS had to pre-cover healthcare and retirements for the next 75 years, which no other organization does, and has put USPS in financial trouble.
All those moron Boomers relying on the USPS for their medicine delivery were suddenly shocked service to bumfuck Alabama would have to be reduced. Yet they keep voting republican…
You can order food through the mail. You need to plan your meals a little that’s all.
The last time someone mailed a plate of food to me it didn’t work out too well
UPS didn’t treat my lasagna too well on that conveyor.
While I don’t think Uber eats is worth it, and I love the USPS, there’s a major difference between the two: time. No one is having the USPS delivery their lunch.
Kept hot by friction doing 100 miles a minute.
