I’m guessing it’s like Christianity where there are leftist Christians who follow Jesus’ more progressive messages such as giving to the less fortunate and healing the sick, and then there are the scary Christian evangelicals that want A Handmaids Tale and conversion therapy. Logically, Islam probably isn’t a monolith in a similar way other religions aren’t.

However, I have never heard about what those of the Islamic faith actually believe outside of the hysterical post 9/11 Islamophobia I’ve been indoctrinated with as a child.

I want to know what the truth is and hear the other sides story. To me it’s obvious that Islamophobia is wrong, however when Islamophobes make wild claims about it, I can’t really refute them confidently because I’m simply ignorant of the facts. Please educate my dumb, white ass.

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    You’re retreating to the old and tired “oh they don’t count as real atheists because that may make my position look as clownish as it is” position.

    Your circus act is old and tired. I’ve seen your smug tiresome act from plenty of other New Atheists many times before.

    I ask once again, exhaustively, for you to ONCE AGAIN actually READ MARX and actually try to understand what he said beyond what you got out of it, which is apparently “religion bad” and “being smug and condescending toward religious people will surely rally the working class in the present and near future!” over-your-head

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      08 months ago

      Dawkins is obviously an atheist but a racist and the religious umbrella of Christian fundamentalism is a comfortable habitat for him.

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        is obviously an atheist but a racist

        Are you that fucking dense that you think there’s some magical euphoric racism-free default state of atheism that Dawkins and millions of affluent tech capitalists and their minions are somehow banished from (and somehow cease to be atheists) the moment they become racist?

        Do you seriously believe that racism comes specifically and exclusively from religious belief? clown

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          18 months ago

          And or a racist. I’m saying he is a racist and an atheist. The two are independent. But his racism finds a good home in Christian fundamentalism as it would.

          I’m just trying to clarify what I meant and Ill be honest I have no idea what you’re saying or arguing at this point.

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            You’re too high on Sam Harris’ farts to actually read and understand what Marx wrote, apparently, so I’ll instead ask you to at least read the room.

            Looking down on crushingly oppressed people around the world because they didn’t become le enlightened gentlesirs of le atheism yet is making a clown of you here.

            Ill be honest I have no idea what you’re saying or arguing at this point.

            I repeated myself many times regarding what Marx actually said compared to what you are pretending he said. No investigation, no right to speak.