The irony is that Gemini Pro is actually better than ChatGPT (which is not saying a ton, as OpenAI have completely stagnated and even some small open models are better now), but whatever they use for search is beyond horrible.
Nah, it’ll be more subtle than that. Just like Brawno is full of the electrolytes plants crave, responses will be full of subtle product and brand references marketers crave. And A/B studies performed at massive scales in real-time on unwitting users and evaluated with other AIs will help them zero in on the most effective way to pepper those in for each personality type it can differentiate.
Google search is literally fucking dogshit and the worst it has EVER been. I’m starting to think fucking duckduckgo (relies on Bing) gives better results at this point.
I have been using Duck for a few years now and I honestly prefer it to Google at this point. I’ll sometimes switch to Google if I don’t find anything on Duck, but that happens once every three or four months, if that.
The one thing Google still has over Duck for me at this point is reddit results. So much niche information is stored on that site, but they’ve blocked anyone other than Google from crawling the site so other engines can’t index past the point they changed that policy.
Careful. People here get mad about that for some reason. Like you can’t think Google sucks but that their search engine is still better than others. And people will argue with you that Google is way worse than anything else. I don’t know what planet they are from.
To this day any time I navigate somewhere with Google maps while someone else separately navigates there with apple maps, we end up at different places. More often than not, I’m where we both should’ve ended up.
Interesting. In my experience, google maps is “too creative” on their routes. They usually send me to some back roads that only make my drive much longer.
I suspect that Google Maps preemptively routes some percentage of drivers through alternate directions in order to ease congestion. (Because if Maps tells you that the obvious route will get you there in thirty minutes and it takes an hour then you’re going to be mad at Maps)
Regardless of their route choices, Maps is always solid with ETA for me and it has access to a ton of traffic data.
Isn’t it funny that a lot of people were worried that wikipedia would be unreliable because anyone could edit it, then turned out pretty reliable, but AI is being pushed hard despite being even more unreliable than the worst speculation about wikipedia?
I’ve used Google since 2004. I stopped using it this year because as the parent comment points out, it’s all marketing and AI. I like Qwant but it’s not perfect but it functions like a previous version of Google.
I have tried a few replacements for Google but I’ve yet to find anything remotely as effective for searches about things close to me. Like if I’m looking for a restaurant near me, kagi, startpage, and DDG are not good. Is qwant good for a use case like that? Haven’t heard about it before.
Meanwhile Google search results:
We have new feature, use it!
No, its broken and stupid, I prefer old feature.
… Fine!
breaks old feature even harder
The irony is that Gemini Pro is actually better than ChatGPT (which is not saying a ton, as OpenAI have completely stagnated and even some small open models are better now), but whatever they use for search is beyond horrible.
Should we put bets on how long until chatgpt responds to anything with:
Great question, before i give you a response, let me show you this great video for a new product you’ll definitely want to check out!
Nah, it’ll be more subtle than that. Just like Brawno is full of the electrolytes plants crave, responses will be full of subtle product and brand references marketers crave. And A/B studies performed at massive scales in real-time on unwitting users and evaluated with other AIs will help them zero in on the most effective way to pepper those in for each personality type it can differentiate.
Less than a year.
I say 6 months.
I give him 11 minutes.
And my axe!
Username checks out
“Great question, before i give you a response, let me introduce you to raid shadow legends!”
Google search is literally fucking dogshit and the worst it has EVER been. I’m starting to think fucking duckduckgo (relies on Bing) gives better results at this point.
I have been using Duck for a few years now and I honestly prefer it to Google at this point. I’ll sometimes switch to Google if I don’t find anything on Duck, but that happens once every three or four months, if that.
The one thing Google still has over Duck for me at this point is reddit results. So much niche information is stored on that site, but they’ve blocked anyone other than Google from crawling the site so other engines can’t index past the point they changed that policy.
Same here. I only switch to google to search for images for memes. For some reason bing has a harder time finding random star trek scenes.
I use ddg but find Google gives better results and Google’s snippet feature still rocks.
Careful. People here get mad about that for some reason. Like you can’t think Google sucks but that their search engine is still better than others. And people will argue with you that Google is way worse than anything else. I don’t know what planet they are from.
I don’t like AI in search engines but even duckduckgo’s AI is better lol.
And they let you turn it off
I only go to the googs for maps.
I go to Apple Maps.
To this day any time I navigate somewhere with Google maps while someone else separately navigates there with apple maps, we end up at different places. More often than not, I’m where we both should’ve ended up.
Interesting. In my experience, google maps is “too creative” on their routes. They usually send me to some back roads that only make my drive much longer.
I suspect that Google Maps preemptively routes some percentage of drivers through alternate directions in order to ease congestion. (Because if Maps tells you that the obvious route will get you there in thirty minutes and it takes an hour then you’re going to be mad at Maps)
Regardless of their route choices, Maps is always solid with ETA for me and it has access to a ton of traffic data.
I can’t afford the water damage to the car.
Same.
I’m in sciences and the AI overview gives wrong answers ALL THE TIME. If students or god forbid professionals rely on it thats bad news.
Isn’t it funny that a lot of people were worried that wikipedia would be unreliable because anyone could edit it, then turned out pretty reliable, but AI is being pushed hard despite being even more unreliable than the worst speculation about wikipedia?
Being for profit excuses being shitty I guess.
AI is so fucking cap. There is no way to know if the information is accurate. It’s completely unreliable.
Ive been using only duckduck for years now. If I don’t find something there, I dont need it.
Even adding, “Reddit” after a search only brings up posts from 7 years ago.
I’ve used Google since 2004. I stopped using it this year because as the parent comment points out, it’s all marketing and AI. I like Qwant but it’s not perfect but it functions like a previous version of Google.
I have tried a few replacements for Google but I’ve yet to find anything remotely as effective for searches about things close to me. Like if I’m looking for a restaurant near me, kagi, startpage, and DDG are not good. Is qwant good for a use case like that? Haven’t heard about it before.
I’ve had some success but it goes off of your ISPs server location so for me it’s not very useful.
I have not enjoyed Qwant - tried it as my default but I’m back to DDG. I just want a functional Google again (boolean operators please…)
yeah, but at least we can vet that shit better that the unsourced and hallucinated drivel provided by ChatGPT