I am understanding what you’re saying, and I am telling that you’re wrong. You’re understanding on what religion stands for is coming a very Christianized perspective of what religion is and isn’t and taking that approach towards Judaism is extremely harmful. Someone believing in Buddhism does not mean they explicitly think all religions are incorrect, that’s probably the worst example as Buddhists are explicitly religiously pluralistic. Jews do not see Judaism as being above all religions and that all others are wrong, it’s more nuanced. Judaism is perfectly fine with other religions for the most part in the modern day. Religious pluralism is kind of the general consensus amongst Jews. Philosophically in Judaism its easier for non-Jews to be righteous and enter the afterlife over Jews themselves.
I think the argument prior have is that for religious Jews (~75% in the US) there are religious Jewish laws and a biblical God (~25% of us Jews believe in the biblical God)…
The fact that there is some wiggle room for those 50% of us Jews who believe in a higher power, but not specifically the god of the bible is the part that is lost.
The 25% of Jews who do believe in the biblical God absolutely fall into this meme without question.
Honestly, the problem here isn’t the “Christian atheists”. You are making some claims about Jews the people and others are making claims about Judaism the religion. Unfortunately, everyone is using the same word too describe it.
It feels to be a fundamental misunderstanding of Jewish culture and the way it’s inherently disconnected from Christianity, that’s my biggest issue with the meme overall tbh
Unfortunately it isn’t. You can take issue with the overgeneralizing of the 25% of religious Jews who believe in the biblical god… But you are just wrong to think that those 25% do not deserve to be included in this meme. (Or any other jew who believes in their biblical god)
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I am understanding what you’re saying, and I am telling that you’re wrong. You’re understanding on what religion stands for is coming a very Christianized perspective of what religion is and isn’t and taking that approach towards Judaism is extremely harmful. Someone believing in Buddhism does not mean they explicitly think all religions are incorrect, that’s probably the worst example as Buddhists are explicitly religiously pluralistic. Jews do not see Judaism as being above all religions and that all others are wrong, it’s more nuanced. Judaism is perfectly fine with other religions for the most part in the modern day. Religious pluralism is kind of the general consensus amongst Jews. Philosophically in Judaism its easier for non-Jews to be righteous and enter the afterlife over Jews themselves.
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Not believing in other religions does not mean that you believe all others are inherently incorrect. That is a very Christian thing.
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I think you reflect the opinions of American Reform Jews.
Orthodox jews are absolutely dogmatic and judgmental, look at Israel.
That’s a very wide generalization, Jews are far less dogmatic as a standard
This is false. Not believing something does mean someone thinks it has inherently failed its burden of proof.
You should say: not believing doesn’t mean that they are incapable of considering it’s validity.
Also, it’s not christian… but now we are splitting hairs.
Some people jusr don’t realize just how engrained Christianity is in our society.
Yeah, I know… Christian atheists stop perpetuating Christian antisemitism and culturally erasure challenge
I think the argument prior have is that for religious Jews (~75% in the US) there are religious Jewish laws and a biblical God (~25% of us Jews believe in the biblical God)…
The fact that there is some wiggle room for those 50% of us Jews who believe in a higher power, but not specifically the god of the bible is the part that is lost.
The 25% of Jews who do believe in the biblical God absolutely fall into this meme without question.
Honestly, the problem here isn’t the “Christian atheists”. You are making some claims about Jews the people and others are making claims about Judaism the religion. Unfortunately, everyone is using the same word too describe it.
It feels to be a fundamental misunderstanding of Jewish culture and the way it’s inherently disconnected from Christianity, that’s my biggest issue with the meme overall tbh
Unfortunately it isn’t. You can take issue with the overgeneralizing of the 25% of religious Jews who believe in the biblical god… But you are just wrong to think that those 25% do not deserve to be included in this meme. (Or any other jew who believes in their biblical god)
Viewing from All and I’ve appreciated reading your perspective in this thread. Thank you.