• @Etterra@lemmy.world
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    202 years ago

    TIL that evangelicals who listen, in church, to the literal Sermon on the Mount are complaining to said preachers about all those “woke leftist talking points.” When reminded that these were the literal teachings of Jesus Christ, they double down about how it’s old, week, and no longer applies.

    Evangelicalism is running out of actual Christians in its churches. They’re so addicted to toxic GOP insanity that they’ve replaced their actual religion with insane political machinations in a silly hat.

    • Raised Catholic, but half my family is Jewish. Almost a running joke at family functions when the conversation turns to religion and we’re all like “Yeah, you guys got close enough, idk at least we’re not Scientologists.”

      • Call me Lenny/Leni
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        22 years ago

        Can relate. I was raised without anything specific in mind, one day came back to them (I spent my childhood in different places) having forgotten I am now denominational for a very not-very-discussed denomination, and they make the same joke, “well if it protects her from things like Scientology, it’s a godsend if you ask me.”

  • @EhList@lemmy.world
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    32 years ago

    Not entirely true as Islam requires Christianity and Judaism to be correct to some extent for their religion to be true.

  • @Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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    142 years ago

    Christianity is the one true religion. Except for Christianity that is not the Christianity that I grew up with. That Christianity is false.

  • @WaterChi@lemmy.world
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    72 years ago

    Tell me you don’t know many religious people without telling me you don’t know many religious people.

  • @CommieKurtz@lemmy.ml
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    32 years ago

    Zen Buddhist here. If your religion makes you feel a type of way then it’s working. I know this table is real because I see and feel it. Relationships to religion are a personal experience and I’m not here to tell judge you about the validity of it. We all good homie

  • RaivoKulli
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    12 years ago

    Well yeah doubt they’d be into their current religion if they didn’t believe that it was true

  • faltryka
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    162 years ago

    This is a pretty uneducated take, the statement may be generally true for monotheisms, but is pretty off base when it comes to the broad range of religions as a whole.

    • @user23@discuss.tchncs.de
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      82 years ago

      It really isn’t off base. Every belief system believes it’s correct and other conflicting ones aren’t. That’s just… how it works. It’s simply not possible for, say for example celtic paganism and Vajrayana Buddhism to both be correct. And neither of those are monotheistic

      • @gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works
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        72 years ago

        Have to disagree here. There are and were many religions that accept the existence of gods of other religions. They can absolutely exist next to each other. Those religions that seek to spread through persuasion or violence are the outliers.

        • @HellAwaits@lemm.ee
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          22 years ago

          You do realize many of the religious texts have passages that say “you can’t have any other religion than this one” right? The Bible has it, the Quran has it. Not sure about the Torah, but wouldn’t surprise me if it did have it. And those are the top three Abrahamic religions. Indian religions: I know Hinduism hates Islam. Buddhism is probably the only one that fits your claim, so congrats. Your claim is mostly wrong though.

          • @gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works
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            12 years ago

            There are a lot more religions than these five. Obviously I don’t mean Islam and Christianity. Hindus, as far as I know, don’t reject Islam because if theological, but because of historical reasons.

            Of course I don’t know about every single one, but I’m pretty sure there is a reason Islam and Christianity spread so much while thousands of other religions didn’t. Non-missionary religions most probably don’t have any negative claims about other religions, because that only makes sense if they want to expand.

            • fknM
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              22 years ago

              I mean… Hindus do reject Islam for theological reasons… Hinduism is not theologically compatible with Islam.

          • @gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works
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            22 years ago

            There are thousands of religions worldwide. If more had the urge to spread, we’d see a higher diversity amongst the larger ones.

    • @Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      True! In a polytheist perspective multiple religions can be valid. Even the bible doesn’t actually claim there is only one God just that Yahweh demands to be placed atop the heirachy along with a lot of rules that would make worshipping any other God really hard.

      Like take things from a Shinto perspective. There is no reason to suspect Yahweh doesn’t exist, but the characterization might be of a God who is lying because they want adoration and loyalty. Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha etc are all viable as living beings who were far enough into their individual spiritual journeys that they could be living gods (though the concept of god is a little different from a pantheon-esque idea of a god or the idea rendered from a monotheist perspective.)

      In Shinto you basically have more Gods than can be counted. Some of them like to interfere with humans and the world but for the most part whether you believe in them or not makes little to no difference to the Gods doing their thing. They are more likely to notice you if you try and get their attention but you have a chaotic blend of forces all work so every God that is claiming to be the best/only God would essentially be a flawed insecure power looking to lie to a bunch of humans (who are essentially children just starting out their spiritual progression) for basically similar reasons one lies to children. Either to control their behaviour or because it’s an easy source of validation… Or they just think it’s funny? In the belief system there is nothing to say these powers are not fallible. Just like adults they can have faults and thus all belief systems that have something alike to Gods (Kami) could all potentially be real and non-contradictory in the sense that there is a framework that supports them all existing simultaneously… Though absolutely contradictory in their motives.

      Monotheist systems essentially give their Gods a sort of authorial intent. It is impossible for them to be flawed because they are the judge and jury of what is correct because they made the game and set the rules. Thus there can only be one correct set of answers. So multiple valid points of worship are simply not viable unless those entities are subordinate to the God of authorship.

  • rustydomino
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    172 years ago

    As a non Jew, this is one of the things I appreciate about Judaism. Y’all might believe this, but you spend zero effort convincing me this is true.

    • @eestileib@sh.itjust.works
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      122 years ago

      Except for orthodox jews who are currently legislating their ass-backwards practice in Israel.

      Every religion sucks, some just have the power.

    • gabe [he/him]
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      112 years ago

      You’re right. It isn’t true. Judaism’s official position is that Judaism is explicitly for Jews only. You’re welcome to join us if you do the work to do so and realize the difficulty it may bring, but it’s our thing and we explicitly do not try to try to convince other people to become Jews. We actively do the opposite, discouraging people to convert. Being Jewish doesn’t make us better people or worse people than anyone else, it just makes us Jews.

        • gabe [he/him]
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          I have no idea where you learned that, but you are just patently incorrect. Judaism is a distinct religion separated from Islam and Christianity. It’s not those religions-lite, it’s its own thing. It is an ethnoreligion, with atheists who practice Judaism culturally.

          There is no “factually correct” means of Judaism either, the entire religion is based upon debate and discussion. If you ask two rabbis the same question, you will get four different answers. The word Israel directly translated to “to wrestle with G-d”

          Yes, Judaism has its issue but doing this nonsense only serves to harm us.

          There is a key religious philosophy in Judaism that athiests who do good deeds are potentially the most giving of all, as it is known for certain that they are doing good things for the sake of being good not out of fear or reward. That is the words uttered from one of the most important Jewish philosophers, ever.

          Jews are not your enemy, we are your allies. Evil people tend come for us first, and we will stand up for you when we need to as well. American Jews are extremely chill and extremely left leaning. We are actively pushing back against the US backsliding.

            • gabe [he/him]
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              52 years ago

              I am understanding what you’re saying, and I am telling that you’re wrong. You’re understanding on what religion stands for is coming a very Christianized perspective of what religion is and isn’t and taking that approach towards Judaism is extremely harmful. Someone believing in Buddhism does not mean they explicitly think all religions are incorrect, that’s probably the worst example as Buddhists are explicitly religiously pluralistic. Jews do not see Judaism as being above all religions and that all others are wrong, it’s more nuanced. Judaism is perfectly fine with other religions for the most part in the modern day. Religious pluralism is kind of the general consensus amongst Jews. Philosophically in Judaism its easier for non-Jews to be righteous and enter the afterlife over Jews themselves.

              • trashcan
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                32 years ago

                Some people jusr don’t realize just how engrained Christianity is in our society.

                • gabe [he/him]
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                  22 years ago

                  Yeah, I know… Christian atheists stop perpetuating Christian antisemitism and culturally erasure challenge

                • gabe [he/him]
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                  32 years ago

                  Not believing in other religions does not mean that you believe all others are inherently incorrect. That is a very Christian thing.

            • gabe [he/him]
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              12 years ago

              🙄 the chosen people think does not mean what you think it means. Jews disagree on more than just a “few miracles” the religion is literally completely different than other abrahamic religions

              Regardless I know there’s no point in arguing with you. It’s ironic you say that other faiths have those who still culturally practice when it’s clear you have internalized Christian hegemony towards Jews and still perpetuate it. You’re acting like a Christian atheist. don’t take your religious trauma out on Jews please

                • gabe [he/him]
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                  12 years ago

                  the priestly class that governs the goyim

                  Hm… interesting. I dunno if you’re being truthful as that’s an extremely common antisemitic canard outside of very very fundamentalist Jewish groups. And calling Judaism supremacist is very sus 🤔