To be clear, I am only talking about people like the average working class Trump voter. The ones who just got caught by misinformation, and just haven’t been able to find a way out. Trump and all his mates are terrible people, and should be held accountable.

The average voter is another thing. My attitude is that I got lucky, and found out that Trump and his mates are terrible, instead of getting sucked down a rabbit hole of supporting them. Knowing how fascism works, I don’t know if I’d be able to reliably land on the right side if fascism happened in my home country. And if I don’t believe I could reliably spot fascism, I’m not comfortable acting like those who support Trump could have.

This isn’t a discussion of “just be a good person”. I know plenty of amazing, caring people who believe they’re doing the right thing.

This whole idea of “I can’t say is reliably avoid fascism” is based on this, the school that became fascist for a week. As bad of an experiment that was from that teacher, it was an effective way of teaching how people fall for what should be obviously a bad thing.

  • @[email protected]English
    2•3 months ago

    I realize that BlueAnon extremists like you would rather reject incontrovertible facts than admit you were wrong, but they are still incontrovertible facts.

    • @[email protected]
      9•3 months ago

      One, I’m Canadian, two I’m firmly left, well past “liberal”. Two, you’re not really worth talking to. Have fun screaming into the void buddy.

      Edit: heh, I’m just going to leave the poorly numberedness.

      • @[email protected]English
        2•3 months ago

        Being a Canadian only makes being a BlueAnon cultist worse; and no, blueAnon is not left, it is firmly liberal.

        Two, you’re not really worth talking to. Have fun screaming into the void buddy.

        “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

          • @[email protected]
            4•3 months ago

            Right? I figured I’d just let them keep winding themselves up. Never even said I was pro-Biden. Honestly, imho, he’s not great, didn’t do much I liked during his tenure and a bunch I didn’t. The stuff he did before was mostly anti-labour which I very much disagree with. BraindeadInABox is frothing at the mouth so hard that they should probably be checked for rabies. The Sartre quote was delectable in it’s blind use as some kinda gotcha. The bozo’s reping a fucking Cheeto, who’s a known rapist, insurrectionist(not even in the respectable way,) and undoubted racist, and if he believes in anything at all further than his own personal power and wealth… he’s certainly an anti-Semite. It’s been interesting watching the masks come off these tankies. Marxist-Leninists my fucking foot. They’re rabid fascist neckbeards, simping over Putin, Xi, and now Herr Trumpf.
            Which is a bit sad, they were so close to actually getting it.

            Anyway, fully expecting this post to be removed. Probably too close to the truth for these soft bootlicking snowflakes.

            • @[email protected]English
              3•3 months ago

              You’ve more or less elucidated my thoughts on the matter and this amusing tankie interaction; cheers for that 🍻

              • @[email protected]
                4•3 months ago

                🍻 no worries bud, they can keep spazzing out, and I’ll keep trying for liberation of the workers and calling fascists fascists. Hope you have a better day than BraindeadInABox, they seem like they’re coasting on towards an aneurysm 👍

                • @[email protected]English
                  2•3 months ago

                  Thanks! Doing my best to not let… you know… gestures vaguely at everything this shit damage my calm too much

                  • @[email protected]
                    3•3 months ago

                    Eh, don’t let it get to you buddy, things will either get better, orrrrr… we’ll all be dead and it won’t matter anyway.
                    Not saying: don’t be aware, don’t try for a better more just and fair tomorrow.
                    Just… don’t let the machine grind you down. Anxiety, desperation and despair make people compliant. Be happy and keep fighting for whatever you want for tomorrow. 🍻