Eliott Dumoulin is a journalist who covers Canada for the French newspaper Le Monde. In this article, he tries to explain to readers back home what’s going on.
Eliott Dumoulin is a journalist who covers Canada for the French newspaper Le Monde. In this article, he tries to explain to readers back home what’s going on.
I’m trying to figure out if I’m having conversations with 14 yr old edgelords. Is his point that derogatory comments to women are cool, or that misogynistic terms are cool regardless who their aimed at? Are racially insensitive terms ok too?
Look, I don’t mean to antagonize you but you’re looking at it in a very American-centric (and quasi-chauvinistic) way.
In other countries the c-word doesn’t have the same connotation as in the US. You are assuming American culture, and its concepts, are universal. They’re not.
There’s nothing inherently wrong in the c-word and the n-word, but it’s the context where those words got to be used that made them so repugnant. Since the n-word was mostly a US thing, its taboo meaning passed over to all variants of English. The c-word though, was already used in other variants and didn’t have the same bad connotation it does in the US. So it kept being used in a different way.
Trying to force the American meaning on other English speakers comes, at best, as ignorant and, at worst, chauvinistic. I don’t think you have bad intentions since you clearly don’t understand how a word can have very different meanings in different cultures. But now you know.
I mean, it’s a Canadian sub talking about Canadian politicians. It may be different if we were talking about Aussie politics. I’ve been to Australia, lived in nz for a year, I’ve used the term with buddies pretty often.
It is different when you’re speaking about a woman in power (awful woman in power) and take all her horrid aspects and boil them down to a demeaning misogynist term. There are a million different insults that can be thrust upon her. Why does it have to be one that means vagina. Whether it’s been appropriated or not by other cultures, here in Canada it is misogynistic and is interpreted so by nearly every woman here
I assure you that I’m Canadian and I say Donald Trump is a miserable cunt all the time. Because he is.
Some people are cunts. Some cunts are men and some cunts are women. Both Pierre Pollievre and Danielle Smith are cunts. They’re miserable people that never say anything positive and seem to derive joy from fucking things up for everyone. They’re miserable cunts.
Uh? Englishmen appropriated the English language now?
And as such I strongly discourage anyone to use that word in Canada. The thing is, this is not Canada, it’s Lemmy and lots of people commenting here (me included) are not from the Americas. And they were pretty clear in what way they meant it. You don’t have to become comfortable with the word but you must understand it doesn’t mean the same in other places and you have no right to impose on them the meaning it has in your country.
Aussie vs can or us. Yes different cultures
How often do you call your mother a cunt?
Lol, I’m not even dignifying that with an answer. I’ve made my point.
Right. Simple question. Total cop out. Why doesn’t word cunt in the context of your mother make you uncomfortable? I don’t think you actually made a point
Because I wouldn’t insult my mother (or father) with ANY swear word.
Everywhere else in the world with the exception of prudish north america, “Cunt” is just a synonym for asshole; regardless of gender.
That may not be where the word started, but that’s where it currently is in modern usage.
now you want to start calling people “edgelords” lol. maybe it’s time to look at your own embarrassing, disgraceful behaviour and consider the possibility that you’re a gigantic flapping twat
Interesting. Do you have any insults that don’t include female anatomy?
God you’re an awful troll.
Really? You think twat cunt and bitch aren’t misogynistic? Do you use these terms to describe your mother/wife/daughter?
I don’t call my mother/wife/daughter a useless oversensitive dumb ass either, and it has literally nothing to do with avoiding misogyny. I don’t call them that because I love them and also because they aren’t that, very simple. I will call you a useless oversensitive dumb ass though, because that’s how you’re behaving. People who aren’t cunts rarely get called cunts, so a solid tip would be to stop being a cunt.
What does your mother/wife/daughter think when you tell them that you call women you disagree with cunts? Does that make them feel good?