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      101 month ago

      No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.

      • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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        11 month ago

        electoralism.

        Refusing to vote is how you end up with the worst arrogant politicians who dont care at all about their constituents.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 month ago

          Once again I still voted for Kamala, however that doesn’t disqualify me from critiquing underlying electoral systems. Fundamentally I belive Liberal Democracy is little more than democracy for the capitalist class.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Classic prisoner’s dilemma. If the ammorale westoid like yourself weren’t so prone to throw foreigners under the bus (aka collaborate or snitch), not voting becomes a viable strategy. But everybody have to play the game

          But of course asking a coward to take a slight risk is way too much to ask

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        Wow, I wish I didn’t care who the president was. I wanna stop fearing for my girlfriends’ lives.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 month ago

            I want as few Palestinians to fear for their lives as possible. I wish Trump hadn’t won the election and promised to turn Gaza into a US colony. Now it’s only going to get worse. I wish we were fighting Kamala to make things better. She’s easier to pressure. Now we’re stuck fighting Trump to make things worse slower.

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              I wish we were fighting Kamala to make things better. She’s easier to pressure.

              But every time us pro-palestinian people tried to put pressure on Kamala we were called tankies. Are you a tankie?

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              41 month ago

              I wish Trump hadn’t won the election and promised to turn Gaza into a US colony. Now it’s only going to get worse.

              See? Here’s the problem, the Democrats were doing the exact same thing to Gaza, but you were a denialist when it was your team doing it. At least under Trump you actually acknowledge what’s happening (even if you still deny what was happening under the Democrats)

              I wish we were fighting Kamala to make things better. She’s easier to pressure.

              Receipts? Because over a year of pressure didn’t get the Democrats to budge even one inch, and for the entirety of that time the “vote blue no matter who” crowd actively opposed that pressure while also engaging in denialism to defend the Democrats.

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                11 month ago

                Receipts?

                When Kamala was VP, pro-palestine protesters in the US didn’t get disappeared by the secret police.

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                  51 month ago

                  No, just beaten and arrested by regular police.

                  But that’s entirely besides the point because it doesn’t change the fact that over a year of pressure couldn’t move the Democrats even an inch.

              • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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                21 month ago

                AIPAC had to spend 100s of millions to get Israel friendly democrats elected instead because they were scared the decent democrats would win the races and stop supporting genocide thanks to all the protesting people were doing.

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                  61 month ago

                  Yeah, and it worked. The Democratic party remains dominated by hardcore ideological Zionists who didn’t move one inch in response to pressure, even if it cost them the election.

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                    You’re missing the point, if it didn’t work the zionists wouldn’t had to spend so much money to affect an election in their favour.

                    Citizen’s united, first-past-the-post and the relentless attacks on the objectively better candidate really screwed people over during the election. Donald Trump is way worse on Palestine and on every other issue.

            • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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              31 month ago

              Yup, at least with the democrats you can protest without being kidnapped into a van on the way to El Salvador.

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                61 month ago

                It’s amazing how blueMAGA libs are incapable of talking about the Palestinian genocide in terms of actual Palestinian people. They can only think about it in terms of how it will affect Americans. 2,500,000 people being exterminated is forgivable, so long as the impotent domestic protests are being brutalized in the proper way.