A massive chunk of the Antarctic shelf broke free last month. Researchers got an ROV there the next day and found an ecosystem that was entirely cut off from the world for centuries. Life will survive, even if humanity doesn’t.
There would need to be an extinction event of over 90% of biodiversity to become the worst extinction event in history. The earth will survive, things will live, what those things will be? Who knows, probably small stuff that burrows underground, they tend to be survivors.
Chernobyl is teeming with life and we royally fucked that up. Organisms have been found that eat oil and plastic. Humans are fragile. Life as a whole is not. Flora and fauna will persist and bounce back long after we fucked off.
Cool story. Doesn’t make it any less true. And the reason why people keep saying it is because they are equally tired of the “OMG the planet is dying and we are destroying all life” chorus. We know. We don’t need more “awareness” raised for this problem, we need viable solutions. Ones that take the general population’s propensity for shitty behavior into account.
What is “it” and what is “true”? Besides some of the biggest concepts the human mind can concieve. Okay, no, fine, let’s just put it in dead simple terms: human life will end in preventable, miserable horror and animal life will do the same, but rocks and amoebas may survive and barf out some other complex life forms someday.
I guess we’ll never know because we won’t be here but also the idea that that happens at all is just the best guess we’ve all agreed to for now. Maybe it’s true, maybe not. Ha ha ha. Pithy!
We don’t need more “awareness” raised for this problem, we need viable solutions. Ones that take the general population’s propensity for shitty behavior into account.
So we’re all “aware” huh. That doesn’t track with what I’m seeing but if you say so. And we already have the solutions, as you know. Have had since the 80s, ironically(?). “The population”'s propensity for shitty behavior notwithstanding.
If your solutions that you’ve had since the 80’s don’t account for people’s behavior, then you don’t actually have a solution.
It’s like the old joke with school physics problems always starting with “ignoring forces of friction and assuming a point mass…”. Yeah you can do that math and come up with an answer, but if you try to apply that answer to real life, it will likely not even come close to working.
So you want people to shut up about it so we can ignore it? Do you think the oil industry stopped their propaganda machine? The current president publicly claims climate change isn’t real ffs.
If you actually consciously posted that because you’re tired of the “our planet is dying” crowd, you are actually a legit mouthpiece spreading oil propoganda. Just wow.
Your reading comprehension sucks. I said give me solutions. It’s kind of hard to want solutions if you think there’s no problem.
And what the US president says has no bearing on this. The rest of the world already knows he’s a malicious actor; we’re just waiting for the Americans to get off their asses and do something about him.
And the reason why people keep saying it is because they are equally tired of the “OMG the planet is dying and we are destroying all life” chorus. We know. We don’t need more “awareness” raised for this problem
Is this not more then half your comment?
We clearly need more awareness if in our current predicament, someone like trump can get elected. The fact is the environment is nowhere near high enough on the list of priorities of most governments.
We also have solutions but we aren’t implementing them mainly because the goverments would rather protect their oil and car industries amongst others.
You think volume of text dictates what the final conclusion of a comment is? This is why I was questioning your reading comprehension.
And the car thing is exactly what I’m talking about when I said elsewhere that a “solution” is only a real solution if it takes peoples’ behavior into account. The reality is, people are not going to give up their cars. It isn’t going to happen (in North America, at least). So if any solution tries to include not driving as an integral part, it will fail. Hence the push for electric vehicles. Even if the grid were 100% fossil fuel based, electric cars would still be drastically better. Plus, it’s a lot easier to build out renewable grid power than it is to change peoples lifestyles.
Clearly your wish for less awareness isn’t some illusion brought on by my reading comprehension if over half of your comment pertains to it.
You are willfully blind if you think electric cars have been accepted properly and if you think the car and oil industry aren’t fighting tooth and nail against it. Same goes for public transport and renewables in general which are constantly held back.
I’m sure you hearts in the right place but complaining about the movement being too vocal is an oil baron talking point.
Well it might be true, but so are most platitudes. So instead of wasting internet, pick up a stick and kick the orange, or come up with a better solution than truisms that make more harm than good
Even if technically correct, this kind of attitude justifies encourages pricks like Trump to misquote using only the first part, then proceed to more shit like this.
Don’t worry. The planet will be fine. We may not be around, but life will persist.
First of all I’m not even sure about that. Well, I guess the tardigrades will make it. Secondly, that thought still does not fill me with joy.
A massive chunk of the Antarctic shelf broke free last month. Researchers got an ROV there the next day and found an ecosystem that was entirely cut off from the world for centuries. Life will survive, even if humanity doesn’t.
Some life. A very little.
There only needs to be a little. That’s how evolution works…
Maybe
The earth has literally gone through more rapid climate changes in the past.
Ok?
There would need to be an extinction event of over 90% of biodiversity to become the worst extinction event in history. The earth will survive, things will live, what those things will be? Who knows, probably small stuff that burrows underground, they tend to be survivors.
Chernobyl is teeming with life and we royally fucked that up. Organisms have been found that eat oil and plastic. Humans are fragile. Life as a whole is not. Flora and fauna will persist and bounce back long after we fucked off.
Really tired of this response. It’s old. like, 80’s old. It was funny at first.
Cool story. Doesn’t make it any less true. And the reason why people keep saying it is because they are equally tired of the “OMG the planet is dying and we are destroying all life” chorus. We know. We don’t need more “awareness” raised for this problem, we need viable solutions. Ones that take the general population’s propensity for shitty behavior into account.
What is “it” and what is “true”? Besides some of the biggest concepts the human mind can concieve. Okay, no, fine, let’s just put it in dead simple terms: human life will end in preventable, miserable horror and animal life will do the same, but rocks and amoebas may survive and barf out some other complex life forms someday.
I guess we’ll never know because we won’t be here but also the idea that that happens at all is just the best guess we’ve all agreed to for now. Maybe it’s true, maybe not. Ha ha ha. Pithy!
So we’re all “aware” huh. That doesn’t track with what I’m seeing but if you say so. And we already have the solutions, as you know. Have had since the 80s, ironically(?). “The population”'s propensity for shitty behavior notwithstanding.
If your solutions that you’ve had since the 80’s don’t account for people’s behavior, then you don’t actually have a solution.
It’s like the old joke with school physics problems always starting with “ignoring forces of friction and assuming a point mass…”. Yeah you can do that math and come up with an answer, but if you try to apply that answer to real life, it will likely not even come close to working.
So you want people to shut up about it so we can ignore it? Do you think the oil industry stopped their propaganda machine? The current president publicly claims climate change isn’t real ffs.
If you actually consciously posted that because you’re tired of the “our planet is dying” crowd, you are actually a legit mouthpiece spreading oil propoganda. Just wow.
Your reading comprehension sucks. I said give me solutions. It’s kind of hard to want solutions if you think there’s no problem.
And what the US president says has no bearing on this. The rest of the world already knows he’s a malicious actor; we’re just waiting for the Americans to get off their asses and do something about him.
Is this not more then half your comment?
We clearly need more awareness if in our current predicament, someone like trump can get elected. The fact is the environment is nowhere near high enough on the list of priorities of most governments.
We also have solutions but we aren’t implementing them mainly because the goverments would rather protect their oil and car industries amongst others.
You think volume of text dictates what the final conclusion of a comment is? This is why I was questioning your reading comprehension.
And the car thing is exactly what I’m talking about when I said elsewhere that a “solution” is only a real solution if it takes peoples’ behavior into account. The reality is, people are not going to give up their cars. It isn’t going to happen (in North America, at least). So if any solution tries to include not driving as an integral part, it will fail. Hence the push for electric vehicles. Even if the grid were 100% fossil fuel based, electric cars would still be drastically better. Plus, it’s a lot easier to build out renewable grid power than it is to change peoples lifestyles.
Clearly your wish for less awareness isn’t some illusion brought on by my reading comprehension if over half of your comment pertains to it.
You are willfully blind if you think electric cars have been accepted properly and if you think the car and oil industry aren’t fighting tooth and nail against it. Same goes for public transport and renewables in general which are constantly held back.
I’m sure you hearts in the right place but complaining about the movement being too vocal is an oil baron talking point.
Well it might be true, but so are most platitudes. So instead of wasting internet, pick up a stick and kick the orange, or come up with a better solution than truisms that make more harm than good
Even if technically correct, this kind of attitude
justifiesencourages pricks like Trump to misquote using only the first part, then proceed to more shit like this.