Any general purpose consumer device should probably have 64GB or more.
But I don’t see the point in disallowing <32GB, as that can still be enough for using tablets for lots of uses like e-readers, smart home displays, kiosks, etc.
In practice, this just means that low end devices will stay on older versions of Android even more than they do already.
32gb?
What exactly do you use your devices for?
For android 15, there already needs to be 12-13gb reserved, then you have only 20ish gb, that in 2025 frankly aren’t a lot even for spotify/whatsapp/telegram/organicmaps’s cache, and thats if you dont use social mndias. If it’s a device you plan on using for more than 2 months, you’re bound to run into problems.
On my device Android 12 uses 9GB and there are about 4GB for temp files.
I don’t use any proprietary apps for the most part so that might be why. For Organic maps the downloaded map size is just shy of a gigabyte and I have three US states downloaded. The biggest app on my phone is Termux but that’s because I installed a bunch of stuff. It sits at around 1.5GB.
Maybe I’m the exception. Is it just that Lineage OS is more space efficient or something? What’s your storage space look like?
I have like 80gb of photos and videos on my phone, which is the vast majority of my storage space. I think the second category is signal’s database, also mostly consumed by sent media
32gb is not enough. We can discuss all day, but at the end of it, a bigger chip doesn’t cost that much more. Let’s stop defending companies that make a shit ton on money selling inflated value phones.
Right but 32 gb isn’t 32 gb out of the box, it’s probably around 29 gb and nowadays android takes 10 gb itself so you’re only left with around 20 usable which is nothing.
You’re just limiting yourself for no reason. Don’t forget that devices tend to get slower the more full they are and not to mention your phone is using up cycles to aggressively manage internal cache. Also, the more things you have cached on your phone again is better because it doesn’t have to use resources to do work again and again.
I just checked my phone and 14 gb is used by “Temporary System Files”, whatever the hell that is but it sounds like cache is the primary use. That is not even counting the 10 GB used by Android. So it sounds like Android wants to cache as much stuff as possible.
And nothing is okay for people who are just using it for web browsing and streaming.
I want local music, and to be able to take pictures without worrying about storage, etc. so ~20GB isn’t enough for me, but for some people it really is fine.
We have little work laptops for staff and even with just like 3-4 programs and a 5gb limit on cloud files stored locally, 64gb is hardly even anoigh to update Windows. Need to get them with at least 128gb.
Any general purpose consumer device should probably have 64GB or more.
But I don’t see the point in disallowing <32GB, as that can still be enough for using tablets for lots of uses like e-readers, smart home displays, kiosks, etc.
In practice, this just means that low end devices will stay on older versions of Android even more than they do already.
Could they just have a microsd card slot instead?
I don’t really see the need for 64GB of storage. 32 is about the sweet spot for me.
32gb? What exactly do you use your devices for? For android 15, there already needs to be 12-13gb reserved, then you have only 20ish gb, that in 2025 frankly aren’t a lot even for spotify/whatsapp/telegram/organicmaps’s cache, and thats if you dont use social mndias. If it’s a device you plan on using for more than 2 months, you’re bound to run into problems.
On my device Android 12 uses 9GB and there are about 4GB for temp files.
I don’t use any proprietary apps for the most part so that might be why. For Organic maps the downloaded map size is just shy of a gigabyte and I have three US states downloaded. The biggest app on my phone is Termux but that’s because I installed a bunch of stuff. It sits at around 1.5GB.
Maybe I’m the exception. Is it just that Lineage OS is more space efficient or something? What’s your storage space look like?
I have like 80gb of photos and videos on my phone, which is the vast majority of my storage space. I think the second category is signal’s database, also mostly consumed by sent media
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32gb is not enough. We can discuss all day, but at the end of it, a bigger chip doesn’t cost that much more. Let’s stop defending companies that make a shit ton on money selling inflated value phones.
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Right but 32 gb isn’t 32 gb out of the box, it’s probably around 29 gb and nowadays android takes 10 gb itself so you’re only left with around 20 usable which is nothing.
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You’re just limiting yourself for no reason. Don’t forget that devices tend to get slower the more full they are and not to mention your phone is using up cycles to aggressively manage internal cache. Also, the more things you have cached on your phone again is better because it doesn’t have to use resources to do work again and again.
I just checked my phone and 14 gb is used by “Temporary System Files”, whatever the hell that is but it sounds like cache is the primary use. That is not even counting the 10 GB used by Android. So it sounds like Android wants to cache as much stuff as possible.
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Skill issue
And nothing is okay for people who are just using it for web browsing and streaming.
I want local music, and to be able to take pictures without worrying about storage, etc. so ~20GB isn’t enough for me, but for some people it really is fine.
We have little work laptops for staff and even with just like 3-4 programs and a 5gb limit on cloud files stored locally, 64gb is hardly even anoigh to update Windows. Need to get them with at least 128gb.