“Natural scrolling” or whatever it’s called with track pads on laptops where the scroll goes the opposite way your fingers are moving. I don’t know why that’s the default, it makes no sense.
I think the preference difference might have something to do with being used to scroll wheels or not. I personally grew up using mice with scroll wheels before I got my first touch screen device (iPod touch) so when trackpads started supporting multi-touch scroll I was already used to scrolling my fingers down to move down in the content.
I don’t think that’s it, since I also grew up with normal computer mice - my first phone-type touch screen device was probably around 12/13, at which point I already had lots of desktop usage.
Edit: This is meant to be a reply to the scroll wheel thread, I hit the button on the wrong one and am just gonna leave it here
On a phone you’re actually touching the page and physically moving the page around (not really of course but that’s the action it’s mimicking)
A scroll wheel is a button-based command, specifically I think it’s literal origin was a different physical space for PgDwn and PgUp
I can get why people like natural scrolling, sorta, because I invert my axis in some games, but only if they used laptops a lot at some point, as those bridge the gap
Yeah, it makes perfect sense on phones. But for whatever reason the disconnect between the trackpad and laptop screen really screws with my brain. It’s like if you tried to drag the scrollbar and it went in the opposite direction you’re dragging it.
I’ve used Windows, Mac, and Linux and I can confidently say they all have strange shortcomings in unique ways. I think people who primarily use one or two of them get blind to things like that with the ones they’re familiar with so problems like that in other ones really stick out.
IMO the big difference is that tools for basic functionality (like trackpad/mouse scrolling, as you mentioned) usually cost something on Mac. I’m not against people earning money with their software, but there are so many small annoyances in MacOS that you need separate tools to fix, and you have to hope that the authors keep updating them.
Scroll Reverser and Rectangle are the two I use and both are free. I’ve been using them with success since about 2019. I don’t know how needed rectangle is any longer.
“Natural scrolling” or whatever it’s called with track pads on laptops where the scroll goes the opposite way your fingers are moving. I don’t know why that’s the default, it makes no sense.
Hm? I really prefer it, it’s the same scrolling as on phones.
I think the preference difference might have something to do with being used to scroll wheels or not. I personally grew up using mice with scroll wheels before I got my first touch screen device (iPod touch) so when trackpads started supporting multi-touch scroll I was already used to scrolling my fingers down to move down in the content.
I don’t think that’s it, since I also grew up with normal computer mice - my first phone-type touch screen device was probably around 12/13, at which point I already had lots of desktop usage.
Edit: This is meant to be a reply to the scroll wheel thread, I hit the button on the wrong one and am just gonna leave it here
On a phone you’re actually touching the page and physically moving the page around (not really of course but that’s the action it’s mimicking)
A scroll wheel is a button-based command, specifically I think it’s literal origin was a different physical space for PgDwn and PgUp
I can get why people like natural scrolling, sorta, because I invert my axis in some games, but only if they used laptops a lot at some point, as those bridge the gap
Yeah, it makes perfect sense on phones. But for whatever reason the disconnect between the trackpad and laptop screen really screws with my brain. It’s like if you tried to drag the scrollbar and it went in the opposite direction you’re dragging it.
For me it’s the opposite, non-natural scrolling feels wrong and unintuitive.
On Mac you need a program to make your trackpad and scroll wheel scroll differently from each other.
I mean, it’s a Mac. Is there anything you don’t need dozens of extra tools for?
I’ve used Windows, Mac, and Linux and I can confidently say they all have strange shortcomings in unique ways. I think people who primarily use one or two of them get blind to things like that with the ones they’re familiar with so problems like that in other ones really stick out.
IMO the big difference is that tools for basic functionality (like trackpad/mouse scrolling, as you mentioned) usually cost something on Mac. I’m not against people earning money with their software, but there are so many small annoyances in MacOS that you need separate tools to fix, and you have to hope that the authors keep updating them.
Scroll Reverser and Rectangle are the two I use and both are free. I’ve been using them with success since about 2019. I don’t know how needed rectangle is any longer.