if […] they did something stupid, I’m not gonna say “wow, that person’s a developmentally disabled!”
Thank you for illustrating the point. Those terms were chosen for a reason - so society would stop using diagnoses as perjoratives.
In other words, the entire reason we say “developmentally disabled” (or whatever the nom du jour is), is because people like you insist on associating developmental disabilities with bad things.
Even if you only use the word “retarded” as an insult, then you are still equating the group of people with the insult.
Again.
If the word “retard” is fine as an insult for you, than you consider intellectual disabilities to be worthy of insult.
You’re not just calling them less intelligent. You’re labelling them as a member of a group of vulnerable people. By doing so, you imply that being a member of that group is insulting. You imply that members of that group are worthy of insult.
Enjoy being edgy, I guess. It’s sad to see so many people are so easily swayed by the idea that empathy is weakness. It costs absolutely nothing to be considerate.
It has nothing to do with empathy. This is upper-class college white girl shit, where people get offended on behalf of a class they don’t belong to and which the people who they are offended on behalf of don’t really give a shit.
You pretend to be offended so you can signal to others that you are virtuous.
The easy, pointless, thought-terminating cliche against empathy. Well done.
“It’s just ivory tower liberalism wahhh nobody actually cares!”
You pretend to be offended so you can signal to others that you are virtuous.
See, this is the part where I get to stop being nice. This is childish, rude, and stupid. You are falling back to wildly presumptive insults because you cannot defend your behavior. It costs you absolutely fucking nothing to be considerate.
If everyone had to be considerate of every persons views, nobody would write anything. Nobody would be allowed to have opinions.
The world isn’t all sunshine and flowers, buttercup. I’ll continue to be imperfect, and use the words to describe what I want. If you want to get your blood pressure up, and get huffy about it, that’s your prerogative.
Thanks, more bad faith “wahh we can’t be bothered to consider people’s feelings!”
Who has the time, I know. There’s just not enough time in the world for you to ever change the way you think or act. Better just keep on never growing or improving. Never change a single thing about the way you interact with others.
I get it. It’s just too hard for you to be considerate of others. Too much time, too much effort.
I get it. Generally people don’t want to offend someone without due cause. And so we traipse around each other’s idiosyncrasies. For the most part that is fine.
The problem comes from making a policy of it. People will say what they will say. Does that cause reputational harm if they say certain words? Sure. No one can stop you from changing how you feel about someone based upon their actions. But you can’t stop them from saying it.
Let’s go straight to the source. Let’s talk about the N word. If you see someone in public use that word perjoratively - then you will probably consider them to be a bad person. You may even tell other people “That person said the N word and they are bad because of it.” And that would be perfectly fine.
But what you can’t do is tell them not to say it. Because it is their freedom to be a piece of shit and to say awful things and to demean and hurt others with their words. So if Joe Rogan wants to say stupid shit, let him. We all know he’s an idiot.
Oh yeah… idiot used to have a clinical meaning too, you know. But I guess according to you I can’t say that either.
… lol. That’s not how freedom works. I can tell them whatever I want. That’s how freedom works. But go on with your freedom. Go use the N word like that on the streets of a major city, we’ll see how you hold up with that half-assed ideal when people rightfully tell you to stop.
This is why I prefer “willful ignoramus” when I want to insult a person like Rogan.
These people aren’t just stupid, they’re choosing to be ignorant.
The real problem is the stigma attached (throughout modern history) to people with intellectual disabilities. Every new term eventually became a slur, because the same bigots who use slurs are also bullies.
“Intellectual disabilities” has a slim chance of avoiding this because it’s too long to say and too hard to spell.
Btw, “lame” and “blind” are examples of how it’s similar for all kinds of disabilities.
Thank you for illustrating the point. Those terms were chosen for a reason - so society would stop using diagnoses as perjoratives.
In other words, the entire reason we say “developmentally disabled” (or whatever the nom du jour is), is because people like you insist on associating developmental disabilities with bad things.
Even if you only use the word “retarded” as an insult, then you are still equating the group of people with the insult.
Again.
If the word “retard” is fine as an insult for you, than you consider intellectual disabilities to be worthy of insult.
I don’t know about you, but calling someone less intelligent IS an insult. Doesn’t matter what you name it.
That’s the point of insults you know.
Thank you for confirming your meaning.
You’re not just calling them less intelligent. You’re labelling them as a member of a group of vulnerable people. By doing so, you imply that being a member of that group is insulting. You imply that members of that group are worthy of insult.
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Enjoy being edgy, I guess. It’s sad to see so many people are so easily swayed by the idea that empathy is weakness. It costs absolutely nothing to be considerate.
It has nothing to do with empathy. This is upper-class college white girl shit, where people get offended on behalf of a class they don’t belong to and which the people who they are offended on behalf of don’t really give a shit.
You pretend to be offended so you can signal to others that you are virtuous.
The easy, pointless, thought-terminating cliche against empathy. Well done.
“It’s just ivory tower liberalism wahhh nobody actually cares!”
See, this is the part where I get to stop being nice. This is childish, rude, and stupid. You are falling back to wildly presumptive insults because you cannot defend your behavior. It costs you absolutely fucking nothing to be considerate.
If everyone had to be considerate of every persons views, nobody would write anything. Nobody would be allowed to have opinions.
The world isn’t all sunshine and flowers, buttercup. I’ll continue to be imperfect, and use the words to describe what I want. If you want to get your blood pressure up, and get huffy about it, that’s your prerogative.
Thanks, more bad faith “wahh we can’t be bothered to consider people’s feelings!”
Who has the time, I know. There’s just not enough time in the world for you to ever change the way you think or act. Better just keep on never growing or improving. Never change a single thing about the way you interact with others.
I get it. It’s just too hard for you to be considerate of others. Too much time, too much effort.
I get it. Generally people don’t want to offend someone without due cause. And so we traipse around each other’s idiosyncrasies. For the most part that is fine.
The problem comes from making a policy of it. People will say what they will say. Does that cause reputational harm if they say certain words? Sure. No one can stop you from changing how you feel about someone based upon their actions. But you can’t stop them from saying it.
Let’s go straight to the source. Let’s talk about the N word. If you see someone in public use that word perjoratively - then you will probably consider them to be a bad person. You may even tell other people “That person said the N word and they are bad because of it.” And that would be perfectly fine.
But what you can’t do is tell them not to say it. Because it is their freedom to be a piece of shit and to say awful things and to demean and hurt others with their words. So if Joe Rogan wants to say stupid shit, let him. We all know he’s an idiot.
Oh yeah… idiot used to have a clinical meaning too, you know. But I guess according to you I can’t say that either.
… lol. That’s not how freedom works. I can tell them whatever I want. That’s how freedom works. But go on with your freedom. Go use the N word like that on the streets of a major city, we’ll see how you hold up with that half-assed ideal when people rightfully tell you to stop.
Can we still call people morons?
Yes.
That one stopped being used as a medical designation prior to people getting their panties in a twist about using medical designations as insults.
This is why I prefer “willful ignoramus” when I want to insult a person like Rogan. These people aren’t just stupid, they’re choosing to be ignorant.
The real problem is the stigma attached (throughout modern history) to people with intellectual disabilities. Every new term eventually became a slur, because the same bigots who use slurs are also bullies.
“Intellectual disabilities” has a slim chance of avoiding this because it’s too long to say and too hard to spell.
Btw, “lame” and “blind” are examples of how it’s similar for all kinds of disabilities.