It’s fine to complain, though. We are not a cult. If the establishment candidate wins the primary, we’ll dutifully vote for that candidate in the general, and then complain about that president-elect for the next four-to-eight years, and try to pressure them on the issues that matter to us. And that’s a good thing.
You’d think the party would have learned its lesson after the disaster in 2016 but then 2024 comes around and they do it again, appealing to “centrists” like the mythical moderate Republican and pushing their own voters out of the conversation so they could keep the AIPAC cash flowing.
Ask Ilhan Omar. She’s just a little representative and they wanted her gone. AIPAC can be a big fish in a small pond against a small number of targeted representatives who are already on shaky ground. They don’t mean shit at the presidential level.
Are you kidding? The only chance Harris has to win the primary is if the party pulls another Debbie Wasserman Schultz and destroys their chances in the general again.
“vote blue no matter who” and the dems pivoting from issue driven campaigns to personality driven ones so they can take donations from bad actors is what got the party into the mess its in.
It’s fine to complain, though. We are not a cult. If the establishment candidate wins the primary, we’ll dutifully vote for that candidate in the general, and then complain about that president-elect for the next four-to-eight years, and try to pressure them on the issues that matter to us. And that’s a good thing.
Complaining is fine and encouraged.
It’s the Bernie-or-bust mindset or the whole voting third party instead of Harris campaigns that I take issue with.
We wouldn’t have to be this way if the Democrats hadn’t shown their whole ass to put us here:
https://people.com/celebrity/debbie-wasserman-schultz-resigns-following-bernie-sanders-comments/
That’s exactly what I’m talking about.
Right?
You’d think the party would have learned its lesson after the disaster in 2016 but then 2024 comes around and they do it again, appealing to “centrists” like the mythical moderate Republican and pushing their own voters out of the conversation so they could keep the AIPAC cash flowing.
Isn’t going against Israel political suicide whether you like them or not?
There’s a reason every president has been pro-Israel since it was created.
Seems to me that their being pro-genocide hurt them more than it helped.
Ask Ilhan Omar. She’s just a little representative and they wanted her gone. AIPAC can be a big fish in a small pond against a small number of targeted representatives who are already on shaky ground. They don’t mean shit at the presidential level.
It’s political suicide according to people who love everything they do.
Are you kidding? The only chance Harris has to win the primary is if the party pulls another Debbie Wasserman Schultz and destroys their chances in the general again.
So her chances are high, then.
The establishment candidate might not be Harris next time. My point still stands, whoever it turns out to be.
“vote blue no matter who” and the dems pivoting from issue driven campaigns to personality driven ones so they can take donations from bad actors is what got the party into the mess its in.
That’s a valid point, but I wouldn’t put money on it.
The core reason for the loss in 2024 still exists, and polls show that patience for DNC shenanigans has run out amongst voters.