Well biden won by 20 mil and then those votes went away and didnt even go third party. So seems like disenfranchisement than country moving more than moving right.
Well that’s the truth but at least vote third party. If im right then dems will follow the votes. They see 29 mil suddenly happen for third party ill bet my hat they will change tune. Im convinced they go right cause those are the people that vote.
historically speaking people with power are dumb dumbs and/or go for low hanging fruit. Hence DNC courting all those republicans voters in last cycle. Old ppl vote more comparatively.
You’ve basically already accepted defeat. You’re admitting that the DNC will keep moving to the right regardless of our actions, and also that we have no alternative than to vote for them anyway. Have you game theoried that out to see where that ends? That’s why I call it a dead-end.
Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse.
So seems like disenfranchisement
So the Dems did make it worse by being terrible at running the country during the 20 years they’ve been in power over the past 30 years?
They fucked up strategically: creating the material conditions for the rise of Fascism and they fucked up tactically by running two terrible candidates who abetted genocide in Gaza, and couldn’t even be bothered to promise a feeble social democratic programme (which would be less than the bare minimum), and because of this tactical mistake they’ve lost to fucking Trump who is very clearly an idiot.
Calling it a fuckup implies that Democrats actually care about winning elections and developing the country, which is debatable after all these fuckups and all their anti-left rhetoric…
I’m not American, I just hate both the US power elite and the bootlickers making excuses for them. Fuck them all, because they make the world worse for the rest of us…
I could go on and on about EU neoliberals as well, but that’s not the topic at hand, and they are basically behave like vassals to the US anyway
Well biden won by 20 mil and then those votes went away and didnt even go third party. So seems like disenfranchisement than country moving more than moving right.
Which democrats let happen without pushback
It’s also extreme disillusionment. Everyone is checked out and realizes Democrats are genocidal frauds now
Well that’s the truth but at least vote third party. If im right then dems will follow the votes. They see 29 mil suddenly happen for third party ill bet my hat they will change tune. Im convinced they go right cause those are the people that vote.
You do realise that it’s a big part of a politician’s job to mobilise the masses to vote?
historically speaking people with power are dumb dumbs and/or go for low hanging fruit. Hence DNC courting all those republicans voters in last cycle. Old ppl vote more comparatively.
You worldview is fundamentally an anti-human dead end with no path forward
So voting dnc as a stop gap and promoting progressive candidates is anti human and no path forward? What am I then pro dinosaur?
You’ve basically already accepted defeat. You’re admitting that the DNC will keep moving to the right regardless of our actions, and also that we have no alternative than to vote for them anyway. Have you game theoried that out to see where that ends? That’s why I call it a dead-end.
Have any alt actions? Cause that’s the system we got. Vote for best choices not great choice.
So the Dems did make it worse by being terrible at running the country during the 20 years they’ve been in power over the past 30 years?
They fucked up strategically: creating the material conditions for the rise of Fascism
and they fucked up tactically by running two terrible candidates who abetted genocide in Gaza, and couldn’t even be bothered to promise a feeble social democratic programme (which would be less than the bare minimum), and because of this tactical mistake they’ve lost to fucking Trump who is very clearly an idiot.
Calling it a fuckup implies that Democrats actually care about winning elections and developing the country, which is debatable after all these fuckups and all their anti-left rhetoric…
So what’s your plan on this?
What do you mean my plan?
The topic is:
Yes, there is.
I’m not American, I just hate both the US power elite and the bootlickers making excuses for them. Fuck them all, because they make the world worse for the rest of us…
I could go on and on about EU neoliberals as well, but that’s not the topic at hand, and they are basically behave like vassals to the US anyway
I mean giving the stating there is ratchet effect is fine. Its true. But what can be done to change it. Status quo is never letting it go right.
While we promote progressives within the country and rally behind them Peaceful options are:
vote blue no matter who. Yes i know all the bs with dems.
Vote third party. Drop in bucket until the silent masses join.