This isn’t really relevant here. Social liberalism, democratic liberalism as categories are defined as left of center. A green group and another group labelling themselves socialist whatever isn’t changing what the definition is for sometime with different names
The “other group labelling themselves socialist” is literally the SPD but go off. You have no clue about socialism or its history, so I’m curious according to whose definition social liberalism or democratic liberalism is left of center.
Quote: “Social liberalism is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses a market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights, and supports the role of the state to address economic and social issues.”
Quote: “Modern liberalism in the United States includes social liberalism, which supports a welfare state and government intervention in the economy to protect individual rights.”
Quote: “Social liberalism is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses social justice, social services, a mixed economy, and the expansion of civil and political rights…”
Quote: “Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centre to centre-left, although there are deviations from these positions to both the political left or right. In modern political discourse, social liberalism is associated with progressivism, a left-liberalism contrasted to the right-leaning neoliberalism, and combines support for a mixed economy with cultural liberalism.”
Quote: “Modern liberals are generally willing to experiment with large‑scale social change to further their project of protecting and enhancing individual freedom.”
Source: Pew Research Center – Beyond Red vs. Blue: The Political Typology
Quote: “Holding liberal positions on nearly all issues, Establishment Liberals are some of the strongest supporters of the current president and the Democratic Party of any political typology group.”
What reference. The only one was a link to something I had already shared and it linked to the one area of liberalism that is considered center or center right. So let me know which link I’d love to know
We just have a more nuanced understanding of politics than you do.
No, you are using a different binary and I would argue you are using the incorrect binary as most are not dividing over support for capitalism.
Yea but you’re all not authority on any of this. So it doesn’t matter. The rest of the world knows liberalism as left of center. Just facts
we just had a coalition of liberals, "social"democrats and greens here in Germany. Believe me no one thinks that liberals are left of center.
This isn’t really relevant here. Social liberalism, democratic liberalism as categories are defined as left of center. A green group and another group labelling themselves socialist whatever isn’t changing what the definition is for sometime with different names
The “other group labelling themselves socialist” is literally the SPD but go off. You have no clue about socialism or its history, so I’m curious according to whose definition social liberalism or democratic liberalism is left of center.
Source: Wikipedia – Social Liberalism
Quote: “Social liberalism is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses a market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights, and supports the role of the state to address economic and social issues.”
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism
Source: Britannica – Liberalism
Quote: “Modern liberalism in the United States includes social liberalism, which supports a welfare state and government intervention in the economy to protect individual rights.”
Link: https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberalism
Source: Cambridge Dictionary – Social Liberal
Quote: “A person who believes the government should help improve people’s lives and protect their rights, but also believes in individual freedom.”
Link: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/social-liberal
Source: Political Compass
Quote: “Social liberals tend to fall in the bottom-left quadrant of the compass, supporting economic equality and individual freedoms.”
Link: https://www.politicalcompass.org/
Source: Pew Research Center – Political Typology
Quote: “Solid Liberals and Establishment Liberals are the most consistently left-leaning groups in the typology.”
Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pew_Research_Center_political_typology
Source: Wikipedia – Social liberalism
Quote: “Social liberalism is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses social justice, social services, a mixed economy, and the expansion of civil and political rights…”
Quote: “Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centre to centre-left, although there are deviations from these positions to both the political left or right. In modern political discourse, social liberalism is associated with progressivism, a left-liberalism contrasted to the right-leaning neoliberalism, and combines support for a mixed economy with cultural liberalism.”
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism
Source: Simple English Wikipedia – Social liberalism
Quote: “Social liberalism … endorses a regulated market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights.”
Link: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism
Source: Britannica – Liberalism
Quote: “Modern liberals are generally willing to experiment with large‑scale social change to further their project of protecting and enhancing individual freedom.”
Link: https://www.britannica.com/question/How-does-modern-liberalism-differ-from-conservatism
Source: Cambridge Dictionary – Liberalism
Quote: “Liberal political ideas emphasize the need to make new laws as society changes and the need for government to provide social services.”
Link: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english-russian/liberal
Source: Pew Research Center – Beyond Red vs. Blue: The Political Typology
Quote: “Holding liberal positions on nearly all issues, Establishment Liberals are some of the strongest supporters of the current president and the Democratic Party of any political typology group.”
Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/beyond-red-vs-blue-the-political-typology-2/
You are factually incorrect.
Definitely am not. I have plenty of supporting links. You all have … Comments
My other reply to you was literally entirely composed of a supporting link. Quit being disingenuous.
And I told you, you posted a link to classic liberalism. It is a subset of liberalism it is not liberalism
No. We’re right. You’ve been given references. Just because you obstinantly ignore those references does not make you correct or smart.
No I’m right I gave references, nobody has provided anything that has shown that liberalism is right
They gave references, you ninny. It doesn’t matter if you have references if everyone is bringing a lot more of rhem in to it, which they have.
Again, obstinance should not be confused with being correct. That’s just being in denial… You are in denial.
What reference. The only one was a link to something I had already shared and it linked to the one area of liberalism that is considered center or center right. So let me know which link I’d love to know