Don’t wanna tell, because it would be a lot of work - let’s give a few hints: The protesters were singing The Internationale and Deng Xiaoping was a revionist and not a marxist.
It would include a lot of translations and giving links to videos, which are probably already deleted. So, it doesn’t make sense to elobarate. Nobody would believe anyways.
not even in german, it’s mostly original sound, but you can read the transparents - they demand e.g. a 35h week and demanding democracy is not the same as demanding reforms for capitalism
EDIT: I’m sorry, they’re not demanding a 35h week, I tried to translate it. People are in strike for 35h.
So, if anyone can translate anything, go ahead. I can only guess.
Anyways, they’re still singing The Internationale. I was not lying.
Nobody will believe it and I got over 100 downvotes. So here you go: China was making liberal changes after Mao and moved away from marxism. The leadership changed and Deng Xiaoping moved ahead to shitty deals for the citizens. Deng openly admitted, that he believed in confucianism and wanted to make changes towards it. A lot of the citizens were unhappy with it and wanted more socialism - which includes more democracy - but also changes to better working-conditions. Because Deng and the new leaders didn’t want that, they moved forward with tanks and military.
tl:dr: socialists were on the streets and were fought with tanks - the tankies were confucianists, who wanted more capitalism
There’s another theory, which capitalists don’t wanna hear. It would disturb them.
Well, let’s hear it
Don’t wanna tell, because it would be a lot of work - let’s give a few hints: The protesters were singing The Internationale and Deng Xiaoping was a revionist and not a marxist.
I don’t think you know anything.
“It’s too much work” - yawnnnn
It would include a lot of translations and giving links to videos, which are probably already deleted. So, it doesn’t make sense to elobarate. Nobody would believe anyways.
We don’t wanna hear about it so badly that critics won’t even talk about it when asked. Damn.
What an easy way to peddle bullshit. Just say something is true and then refuse to do any work to prove it.
https://www.zdf.de/dokumentation/dokumentation-sonstige/tiananmen1989-128.html here are videos, you can give me feedback, if you can watch them.
https://www.zdf.de/dokumentation/dokumentation-sonstige/tiananmen1989-142.html at 35:10 you can hear them singing.
Also that with Deng Xiaoping is common. Everyone knows it. He also openly admitted it.
My feedback is for you to simply state the point you’re trying to make, and skip the “hints” and vague references.
What is the theory, in your own words?
https://feddit.de/comment/2485083 do links work?
Any links that aren’t German so we can actually understand what’s being said?
not even in german, it’s mostly original sound, but you can read the transparents -
they demand e.g. a 35h week anddemanding democracy is not the same as demanding reforms for capitalismEDIT: I’m sorry, they’re not demanding a 35h week, I tried to translate it. People are in strike for 35h.
So, if anyone can translate anything, go ahead. I can only guess.
Anyways, they’re still singing The Internationale. I was not lying.
“A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on” - Not actually Twain
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Could you give a one paragraph tldr off the top of your mind?
Nobody will believe it and I got over 100 downvotes. So here you go: China was making liberal changes after Mao and moved away from marxism. The leadership changed and Deng Xiaoping moved ahead to shitty deals for the citizens. Deng openly admitted, that he believed in confucianism and wanted to make changes towards it. A lot of the citizens were unhappy with it and wanted more socialism - which includes more democracy - but also changes to better working-conditions. Because Deng and the new leaders didn’t want that, they moved forward with tanks and military.
tl:dr: socialists were on the streets and were fought with tanks - the tankies were confucianists, who wanted more capitalism
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Not democracy like we know it. This is important. They wanted more participation and not voting parties.
Neat so China is an evil capitalist entity that wants to destroy socialism
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Who said this? I didn’t. It’s a bit more complicated.
Damn that was a lot of work indeed. Can’t believe you managed to do it.
can’t believe everybody needs to write a stupid comment - there are enough
There may be a grain of truth in that. I’m glad you explained yourself. I definitely appreciate that these things are nor black and white.
Would you say the protestors wanted more socialism’s but not more Mao-style communism?
dno tbh - this whole thing is like a black box and everybody is talking shit - but denying it happened is the dumbest thing to do
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I’d love to hear it for entertainment value
Got that last part right.
I can prove that it was a hoax. I just don’t want to.
the proof goes to a different school
the proof is left as an excercise to the reader
In Canada
“My girlfriend lives in Canada, you wouldn’t know her.”
So you cant proof that you have one -> you dont have one mimimimimimimiii /s
There’s a theory that you guys don’t want to hear because it would disturb you 😏
Actually we do want to hear it
… no.
And where’s the disturbing part?