I think it has become more than apparent that our federation with Hexbear has degraded the quality of browsing on this instance. I’m generally for open federation, but the amount of brigading and general toxicity is not conducive to the friendly communications that make Lemmy great.
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You cut our the part where the commenter equated libertarianism to pedophilia, which as I said, was exemplary of hexbear behavior.
https://hexbear.net/comment/3885422
Here is another where I was called a Nazi despite my left leaning nature. This isnt a political request. Lemmy.ml is quite pleasant.
Hexbear is just behaving in a toxic manner.
https://lemmy.one/comment/2652503
You seem to just ignore that these reasonable and measured statements were a response to harassment, of which Ive gotten plenty from hexbear.
Your Image cuts out the interplay of “you all harass me”, proceeded by harassment, and then “this is what Im talking about”
Where’s the lie?
You had a bad experience on hexbear because noone wants to discuss your ‘libertarian progressive brand of communism’, so now your entire instance needs to defederate?
that was your first comment on that post, you’re jumping the shark
What do you mean by where’s the lie? That libertarianism is pedophilia?
Elaborate if I misread
I’ve yet to meet a self ascribed libertarian that didn’t have some weird ideas about the age of consent.
Anyway, you were posting in a hexbear comm, stop trying to make others do the work for you and just chill maybe.
Don’t people of a Chomsky-type bent sometimes self-describe as libertarian? It’s less common in the US because of how libertarians here are usually right-wingers but the libertarians=pedophiles trope is less common abroad is my understanding. I usually peg them as more anarchist types, which usually are welcome in hexbear.
Not super into this one wanting to defend NATO but I think they have a point about the pedo stuff.
Chomsky palled around with Epstein so that’s a very funny example.
I know, I thought about bringing it up but I didn’t think it would help make my point. I think the larger point (that self-described libertarians aren’t all obsessed with age of consent the way that American ones are) is still valid, but it is very unfortunate that the poster example of what I’m trying to describe had Epstein as an accountant.
Thank you BTW, but do you not think this level of vitriol from the other user is not justified. I did not say anything remotely worth that immediate harassment.
Thats kind of the point of this post. Hexbear has rightly become maligned because this is how every single conversation goes.
If I, a politically friendly person is met with that much hostility, then how do you expect hexbear to behave across Lemmy as a whole?
I think a pretty strong reaction IS warranted against defense of NATO, personally I think it’s a very bad take but I’m trying to stick up for you here. I think it would be better to focus the vitriol against that disagreement than going after your label.
If it’s any help I’m not sure how much awareness you have of the recent controversy that’s been roiling with the folks at SJW but there have been a lot of people recently defending the specific position you are but also engaging in a pretty hostile way, especially in regards to the use of ableist/transphobic rhetoric that we do not tolerate. Nerves are a bit frayed on Hexbear writ large. I think a lot of Hexbears are reacting to hostility with carpet bombing rather than precision as a result.
Hell, until this weekend I was basically just a lurker, the recent stuff brought me out of the woodwork. I can’t tell you what to do, but I think if you give Hexbear some time things will mellow out, things are just tense at the moment. I wouldn’t say you should ever expect them to like you being pro-NATO but I think you’re likely to get more constructive engagement generally the further out from this weekend we get.
Just my two cents.
Reddit liberals really like this word for some reason.
Libertarian originally referred to an anarchist-like movement before getting coopted by Rand types
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Thats what Im taking about. You arent helping your point. And you are now in my community, so if we are in agreement, then you can stop commenting here while we engage in healthy. discourse.
This has nothing do with politics. As your image helpfully shows, Im a libertarian communist. Our ideals are quite close.
But, as I posted, hexbear behavior is unbecoming and unwelcoming. That’s why hexbear should be defederated, as that is the culture there most unfortunately.
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He forgot to add that its ephebophilia
unhelpful, but I’ll allow it
Are you a libertarian? What do you think about age of consent laws?
-crickets-
Why on Earth would I dignify that comment?
Libertarians tend to be obsessed with lowering the age of consent lol. You sound confused.
No u
The current strain of libertarianism in the “west” does seem to have an issue at some point when it comes to this topic.
At least with the political compass, libertarianism is simply the southern two quadrants.
Not that it has anything to do with this comment, just wanted to clarify that the notion of “western libertarians” is likely a misunderstanding.
please reconsider deriving your politics from reactionary memes
alternatively: new site tag holy fuck
Its a descriptive tool. As such, its is both as meaningful and arbitrary. As all other made up words and concepts.
I think the important part is that it helped explain my ideology in less words than a drawn out online screed
It’s not though man…
It fundamentally breaks when ideologies which agree on issues are shown as diverging when others don’t. If you’re really a communist you should understand this as idealist nonsense which can’t actually reflect the complexities of political thought. “Libertarian” thought is also that which supports indentured servitude. Do “libertarian socialists” agree with that? No I sure hope not.
This is a fundamental breakdown of that depiction of politics and the fact that you still reference it as a “useful tool” betrays the incoherence of your politics.
Your “ideology” doesn’t exist. That’s why it can only be explained by something as meaningless as the political compass
it’s a terrible tool, and it’s no wonder you were lumped in with
hebepaedophiles if you think it’s a useful metric.Polcomp is garbage
It’s a pretty common joke for libright people
Ill just leave my link attached. I think it speaks for itself, and the degradation in the quality of Lemmy as a whole.
Not to be dramatic, because I quite like lemmy.one, but I’m going to have to swap to an instance that has defederated until we are given instance wide blocking. Ill return once its implemented though if we don’t otherwise defederate first.
Just delete your account that’ll solve it
I stand by Lemmy.ones belief in allowing conflicting values. Thats why im here. Hexbear can be as communist as it wants. I too an a communist.
What is not OK is the toxicity of hexbear. It degrades the experience.
The problem is that hexbear is actually alt-right concern trolls. Nobody there is actually lgbt, it’s just a handle they use so they know who to target with their harassment.
A whole bunch of nazis who love that neo-communist trump.
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