• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    32 years ago

    If you’re serious about this: consider verbally and physically abusing your servers, lying about them to management, applying the methods outlined in the CIAs manual for disruption of organizations and even stoicastic violence.

    Surely you could be doing more to hurt your server enough that they find a job you approve of!

    For anyone reading this comment: if you don’t tip you’re a bad person exhibit a.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      My goal is not to make all employees quit any and every job. I only want those unhappy with unreliable tip based income to quit, and I want them to communicate that with their employer.

      If someone is happy with optional tipping, then I don’t want them to quit. But such a person should have no real problem with a $0 tip since they support optional tipping, right?

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        22 years ago

        It must be so difficult to make the decision wether or not to tip then, since you need to extensively vet your server before even ordering.

        That is of course unless you don’t make sure your server is unhappy with their tip based income and is communicating that with their employer before you don’t tip and are simply looking for a cover for your antisocial behavior.

        Only bad people don’t tip: exhibit b

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          22 years ago

          Sorry, I don’t follow…can you clarify? I already pointed out that if someone were unhappy with optional tipping then they wouldn’t have any reason to be upset with someone deciding to tip $1000 or $20 or $0. That’s what optional means, having an option. So anyone who would be upset by an optional tip of $0 must be unhappy with their inconsistent tipped based income, obviously.

          Because honestly it’s really not a hard decision at all, I just literally never tip.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            22 years ago

            If part of your goal is to make them quit but you only want people who are unhappy with their tips to quit then you gotta target the people who are unhappy with their tips otherwise your not tipping will make someone who is otherwise happy with their tips to become unhappy with their tips and you will have actively harmed your otherwise perfectly fine server.

            You can always just admit that the justification you used is a cover for your antisocial behavior.

              • @[email protected]
                link
                fedilink
                02 years ago

                Why do you need a cover if it’s optional?

                Why can’t you just say “I refuse to tip and I don’t care if it harms people I directly interact with”?

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  22 years ago

                  Because I want to convince others not to tip as well due to it helping people. And it seems to be working if it’s upsetting people who endorse giving or receiving tips.

                  Same reason you can’t say “I endorse tipping despite the harms it causes to those I directly (and indirectly) interact with, because it makes me feel good as a tipper and/or I like it when I get big tips sometimes”.

                  I have yet to hear an actual argument, even a weak one, as to why an inconsistent unknown income with a unreasonably low base wage is better than a fixed and fair one. I’m always open to changing my position if providing a convincing argument though.

                  • @[email protected]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    12 years ago

                    Do you know that it’s having that effect? What kind of follow up interviews have you conducted to make sure people are getting the message and your not tipping is effective?

                    So like I said, if you really believe you’re helping people by pushing them out of jobs you don’t approve of, consider abuse, false reporting and bullying as well. You’re really limiting your ability to force people out of jobs you don’t approve of if you only vote with your dollars.

                    Step it up.