Wow this post got popular. I got called into work and didnt see the replies, sorry ladies and gentlemen! Trying to catch up tonight.

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      222 years ago

      The National Rifle Association will offer a very well cited claim that strict gun laws increase violent crime. The Violence Policy Center will offer a very well cited claim that the opposite is true. Reality is likely more nuanced.

      The hole in dog breed bite statistics is usually accurate identification of the breed.

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        82 years ago

        Maybe I’m missing something, what does this advocacy group stand to benefit from banning pitbulls? The NRA is backed by weapons manufacturers. This seems to be people who actually see a problem and are taking actions to help protect people.

        • They are pushing arguments in favor of eugenics and genocide and have coopted dog-related injuries to push lies about history and genetic science.

          Just go on their site and wherever they mention pitbulls, replace it with “Jews” and you really start to get the flavor of their bullshit.

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          142 years ago

          People often hold strong beliefs that are not related to personal gain nor particularly rational. I don’t think their intent is nefarious, but I think it’s likely mistaken.

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              82 years ago

              For me to think breed specific legislation is a good idea, I’d probably need three things:

              1. Statistics about serious injuries to people supported by reliable breed identification. Asking a victim or police officer what breed of dog caused the injury is insufficient.
              2. At least some some supporting evidence that the breed is inherently more dangerous than other breeds of the same size instead of simply being popular with people who train their dogs to be aggressive.
              3. Legislation focused on breeding bans, neutering mandates, and a mix of fence/muzzle requirements and temperament testing rather than confiscation or euthanasia individual dogs that have not shown signs of aggression.
    • It’s not well cited because in over half of dog injuries the breed is unknown.

      Also, two thirds of dogs identified as pitbulls by veterinarian staff have zero pitbull DNA.

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      52 years ago

      The problem is that an advisory group trying to push legislation is much more likely to cherry pick and misrepresent their citations.

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        12 years ago

        Okay but what is the motive for them to do this. You are claiming malice but you aren’t providing a motive for said malice