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    Anti Zionism ≠ Anti Semitism.

    Some people wants every body human rights to be respected, and dennounce crimes against humanity that Israel and Hamas commits, one being an alleged country and the other a terrorist organization.

    The right for self determination of Palestinians (and to live) is not being respected by Israel, so, with confidence I will say Free Palestine!

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      Zionism became a thing when antisemitism was really bad.

      Israel became a thing when antisemitism went over itself and even casual antisemites looked in horror at what Nazis had done.

      The Palestinian problem today is nested within centuries of the problem of antisemitism, coiling around and biting itself in the tail.

      • man_in_space
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        Not this bullshit.

        “Antisemitism” as a term refers to hatred of Jews. That’s the common definition. You don’t get to hide behind your neckbeard “Well ackshyully”. Try again.

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          I think your tone is why you are getting down voted. You actually come off as the neckbeard with permanent Cheeto cheese stains on their fingers and half chewed food flying out of your mouth as you type.

          The term antisemitism was created in Germany as a scientific sounding name for Judenhass(Jew Hatred).

          Even though the root of Semite means people of the Semitic language group the usage of antisemitism has always been towards the Jews alone.

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            I’m a linguist by education. I’m used to people being startlingly wrong about language (pop coverage of the field is utterly abysmal) and when someone tries to play the “I cAn’T bE aNtIsEmItIc, I’m A sEmItE” card (to say nothing of right-wing nationalists who think their language is Perfect and the Ancestor of All Languages), I get hot and bothered.

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            Have you ever lived under a terrorist regime? When did Palestinians last vote and what is/where the demographics of the population vs eligible voters? What kind of democracy do they have, one like North Korea or maybe they have a government like the US? What’s the name of the president of Palestine? How many generals do they have? Do children deserve to be murdered because of how their parents voted?

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              Funnily enough, this has happened in the West in the last century. It was called “Vichy France” and those who rolled, les collaborateurs. There’s a reason “quisling” is a word.

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              When you opt for war, you’re the one putting your and your children’s lives on the chopping block. You better be damn sure it’s a risk you’re willing to run.

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        Very few people are arguing for Hamas. Mostly for the civilians of Palestine. And even Hamas claims it’s changed somewhat since the original charter.

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                Bro what is you talking about we can see through the astro babe.

                You suggested people are supporting Hamas not the Palestinian civilians, you literally said

                I’ll believe it when I see it.

                It’s literally all over this thread and many others. People support Palestinians. You’re seeing it and not believing it.

                Now this is your response? Fuck off Israel’s government are a bunch of pussies fuck yo shit

                • man_in_space
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                  I’m talking about

                  And even Hamas claims it’s changed somewhat since the original charter.

                  I know people support Palestine.

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          They launched an entire military operation with the express purpose of murdering civilians at a music festival.

          And you’re saying that’s the changed version?

    • dumdum666
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      So tell me what „Anti-Zionism“ means exactly in your opinion.

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        Anti-Zionism Opposition to Jewish ethnonationalism

        Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism. Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine – the biblical Land of Israel – was flawed or unjust in some way.

        - wikipedia