hey chapos how am i gonna redpill the jury im on to let someone go free?

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    05 years ago

    You’re not. If you advance jury nullification ideas within the jury room, you’ll be replaced by an alternate (if available, obviously the size of the trial will impact that). Now, there might be different laws in different states on the matter, but the ones I’m familiar with allow removal.

    Best thing to do is vote not guilty (assuming the case and charge allow it), and just say you’re not convinced past a reasonable doubt.

    • Coincy [they/them]
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      05 years ago

      Holy shit can you actually be removed if you bring up things the prosecution doesn’t like?

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        15 years ago

        Things the judge doesn’t like, yes. Basically while you have a right to nullify a jury, you don’t have the right to SAY you’re nullifying the jury.

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        15 years ago

        I mean, historically used, often everyone agreed “killing that gamer-word was cool and good”. That’s why there were lots of Federal civil rights trials after local juries refused to convict.

        Now, it’s more likely that you’ll hang a jury rather than get 12 to agree with you, since nullification was cracked down on after all that.

    • DasRav [none/use name]
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      15 years ago

      You can’t mention that you know about it so they pick you, obviously.

      I guess you can also lie your ass off to get in, but if you go hard on that the defense is likely to remove you from consideration instead.

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        15 years ago

        They typically won’t ask if you support or have heard of jury nullification during voir dire. They will leave that to the “is there any reason you feel you can’t bring a verdict in accordance with the law and judge’s instructions?” question.

        Jury nullification isn’t itself illegal, so you can honestly answer “No”.

        • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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          15 years ago

          They asked when I went. They didn’t use the words “jury nullification” but they asked if anyone in the room would be unwilling to convict if they were convinced someone violated a law that they didn’t agree should be a law (giving a stupid example of “making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich”).

        • DasRav [none/use name]
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          15 years ago

          Yea they avoid mentioning it. My point was that you can’t seem as anything but a blank slate doofus to get accepted into a jury.