hey chapos how am i gonna redpill the jury im on to let someone go free?
I tried to get on a jury but I’m 90% sure being trans was why I got kicked off. I was far from dead set on nullification because it was a murder trial but the facts as described initially were that the guy was part of a group of people and they were trying to hold him personally responsible for the robbery turning into a murder. it was either being trans or some other little thing I said during their “do you know what beyond a reasonable doubt means” bullshit. which was also kinda annoying because they keeepppppt asking about it and every time I was like “yo I’ve taken a pile of classes on these concepts I know what the fuck it is”
but at least I made the prosecutor kick off 1/3 of the white people in the pool lol
just realized reading this thread that if we can reach critical mass on jury nullification we can break the justice system completely
You’re not. If you advance jury nullification ideas within the jury room, you’ll be replaced by an alternate (if available, obviously the size of the trial will impact that). Now, there might be different laws in different states on the matter, but the ones I’m familiar with allow removal.
Best thing to do is vote not guilty (assuming the case and charge allow it), and just say you’re not convinced past a reasonable doubt.
So how can jury nullification even take place?
I mean, historically used, often everyone agreed “killing that gamer-word was cool and good”. That’s why there were lots of Federal civil rights trials after local juries refused to convict.
Now, it’s more likely that you’ll hang a jury rather than get 12 to agree with you, since nullification was cracked down on after all that.
So basically everyone would just have to refuse to convict without it being coordinated?
Yeah, just hang the jury
hang the judge if you can get a rope around his neck
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Holy shit can you actually be removed if you bring up things the prosecution doesn’t like?
Things the judge doesn’t like, yes. Basically while you have a right to nullify a jury, you don’t have the right to SAY you’re nullifying the jury.
Both the prosecution and the defense. They have to agree on all the jurors afaik.
You can’t mention that you know about it so they pick you, obviously.
I guess you can also lie your ass off to get in, but if you go hard on that the defense is likely to remove you from consideration instead.
They typically won’t ask if you support or have heard of jury nullification during voir dire. They will leave that to the “is there any reason you feel you can’t bring a verdict in accordance with the law and judge’s instructions?” question.
Jury nullification isn’t itself illegal, so you can honestly answer “No”.
They asked when I went. They didn’t use the words “jury nullification” but they asked if anyone in the room would be unwilling to convict if they were convinced someone violated a law that they didn’t agree should be a law (giving a stupid example of “making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich”).
The more trivial a thing you build an example out of the more demonic it actually is to think about.
Yea they avoid mentioning it. My point was that you can’t seem as anything but a blank slate doofus to get accepted into a jury.
Completely correct.
The beautiful thing about jury nullification is you don’t need to convince anyone. Just vote not guilty and refuse to change it, and stick to the most plausible deniability.
Protip: “Probably guilty” means not guilty.
Just absolutely refuse to convict, let it go to mistrial if it must.
