• GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    172 years ago

    For me dairy is the hard one – meat fucking sucks now, especially for how expensive it is. Like the actual quality of meat seems to have gone down dramatically since like 2017-ish.

    • Tony! Toni! Toné! ☑️
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      102 years ago

      Almond milk and never look back. I’ve been almond milk exclusive for almost a decade and now I can’t stomach the smell of dairy milk.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          112 years ago

          Yeah, oat and pea milk don’t have the environmental issues almond milk has. A quick look at almond production in the US west made me way less enthusisatic.

          • @[email protected]
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            92 years ago

            Yeah it’s still better than dairy though right? I actually really dislike almond milk, I’m not even sure how people like it I hate it so much. I do really like oat milk, soya milk is my favourite though and it’s a crime that it’s underappreciated lol. The one I buy has the same protein and calcium content as dairy with 2.1% fat, and it has 0g of sugar unlike dairy that has what like 5g per 100ml? It also has much less saturated fat of course. And it’s only £0.50 (~$0.60usd) at Aldi

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              2 years ago

              In terms of health, sure. In terms of environmental footprint, quite possibly worse though iirc US agriculture and pasture makes even Australia look water conservative, and we grow rice in the desert

              • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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                92 years ago

                In terms of environmental footprint, quite possibly worse though

                This is not true. There are dairies in California, quite a lot of them, and they take much more water than almond farms. So I agree, almonds shouldn’t be grown in a desert and in a better world they wouldn’t be, but saying that almond milk is as bad for the environment as cow milk is extremely wrong, and worse, gives carnists reason to keep drinking cow milk.

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              If I were in charge, I’d get rid of every dairy first. Producing cow milk is significantly more water intensive than producing almond milk. So this argument (almond milk bad because almonds take a shitload of water) leads inexorably to an even better argument to avoid cow milk: cow milk bad because cow milk takes even more water to produce than almond milk does.

              If you’re going to avoid drinking almond milk because of its water consumption, you had better be avoiding cow milk as well, for the same reason.

              • Completely true yes, but the transfer would take a hell of a lot of time. Years or decades. Especially if almond milk cant replace milk in all its functions. The industries will continue until the other production method expands enough to facilitate the previous jobs and similar or increased output.

                Speaking of which can I get some sources for that claim, i haven’t read anything on that specifically. I do know almond farming is quite draining of resources for low returns.

                I don’t avoid anything for personal consumption, almond milk is more expensive than regular milk here because hawaii has everything mass imported. Also can you bake with almond milk, or soy?