@marmo7ade @queermunist Who is “they” here? Cyclists?

Plenty of cars don’t stop for stop signs and traffic lights too. At least around all the crossings near where I live. Now, it’s possible that there are timing issues, but AFAICS the mentality is it’s okay to keep going as long as the car in front of me is moving. Regardless of the state of the lights.

I’ve been hit by a car a lost several weeks to amnesia from a TBI, forgive me for being afraid of murder machines when I have nothing but a painted line to protect me from them.

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Nah.

Car drivers break the law slightly more than cyclists, with a far greater toll.

This separate study came to the same conclusion:

Cyclists Break Far Fewer Road Rules Than Motorists, Finds New Video Study

And this study:

Cyclists Are More Law-Abiding Than Drivers

Also car drivers cause the vast majority of accidents between bikes and cars.

Four in every five crashes between cars and bicycles caused by driver of car

This seperate study in Melbourne came to the same conclusion:

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/drivers-at-fault-in-majority-of-cycling-accidents/

In 88.9% of cases, the cyclist had been travelling in a safe/legal manner prior to the collision/near miss. Most happened at or near a junction (70.3%) and most were caused by sudden lane changes by the motorist, with sideswipe the most frequent cause (40.7%).

And this one carried out on behalf of the Department of Transport in London:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/dec/15/cycling-bike-accidents-study

With adult cyclists, police found the driver solely responsible in about 60%-75% of all cases, and riders solely at fault 17%-25% of the time.

And this study by The City of Westminster Council:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crashes-involving-bikes-mostly-drivers-fault-9s2ssx06vn9

The City of Westminster Council found that drivers were to blame for 68 per cent of collisions between cyclists and motor vehicles in the borough in the past 12 months. It found that cyclists were at fault for only 20 per cent. In the remaining 12 per cent of cases, no cause could be found or both parties were to blame.

And one from Bavaria, Germany. In 2013-2016,

In car-bike collisions, the car was at fault 75% of the time In semi-bike collisions, the semi was at fault 80% of the time

So that’s five separate studies in different cities and countries, using different methodologies, all coming to the same conclusion.

Cheers.