I think the main issue is that “Wayland is the future” keeps happening every year, just like “this is finally the year of the Linux desktop” and “Brazil is finally ready for a first world economy” - we hear it every year, it keeps being postponed every year.
Well, yes, but it also lacked basic functionality. Forced software vsync regardless of what’s being displayed is what I’d expect from a 1997 graphics card driver programmed by 5 dudes and their nephew.
You could also list a bunch of insane stuff about X11. The security being hilariously bad, random tearing all the time, terrible multi-monitor support, terrible gesture support, etc.
Of course it matters. Maybe you didn’t know, but Wayland doesn’t exist in a vacuum, X11 is the other choice. How could you possibly think it doesn’t matter lmao
Most distros are already Wayland and have been for a while.
Obviously. You’re not a genius for figuring out X11 exists.
The point is, distros are migrating to Wayland as default and some to Wayland as the only option - so of course I’m listing issues with Wayland, and not bothering to list issues with X11 - the distro will be using Wayland, why the hell would I care about open issues on X11?
X11 development is dead so it really is just a matter of time before Wayland is the norm and you’ll be saying stuff like “back in my days we used X11 and we liked it!”
I was going to say, you haven’t been on the internet long enough if you think there aren’t people out there petty enough to defend a dying display server 😂
How hard do you have to search to find these x11 fanboys? Because whenever this topic comes up, the only detractors I see are users who complain because they can’t use wayland for various reasons.
On the other hand those on the other extreme are easier to find, as they always celebrate x11 users (willingly or not) getting screwed; so toxic.
I can feel all the X11 fanboys crying lol
I don’t think anyone is an X11 fan boy. We all know Wayland is the future. I would be using it if it worked on my machine.
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Your description didn’t persuade me to try it, friend.
I think the main issue is that “Wayland is the future” keeps happening every year, just like “this is finally the year of the Linux desktop” and “Brazil is finally ready for a first world economy” - we hear it every year, it keeps being postponed every year.
Wayland is already the present for most Linux users.
Shit, it’s been enabled by default on Debian since 2019. Debian. The famously slow-moving distro.
Well, yes, but it also lacked basic functionality. Forced software vsync regardless of what’s being displayed is what I’d expect from a 1997 graphics card driver programmed by 5 dudes and their nephew.
You could also list a bunch of insane stuff about X11. The security being hilariously bad, random tearing all the time, terrible multi-monitor support, terrible gesture support, etc.
X11 lacks basic functionality.
Sure I could. But it doesn’t matter, as the entire topic at hand are distros migrating to Wayland.
Of course it matters. Maybe you didn’t know, but Wayland doesn’t exist in a vacuum, X11 is the other choice. How could you possibly think it doesn’t matter lmao
Most distros are already Wayland and have been for a while.
Obviously. You’re not a genius for figuring out X11 exists.
The point is, distros are migrating to Wayland as default and some to Wayland as the only option - so of course I’m listing issues with Wayland, and not bothering to list issues with X11 - the distro will be using Wayland, why the hell would I care about open issues on X11?
X11 development is dead so it really is just a matter of time before Wayland is the norm and you’ll be saying stuff like “back in my days we used X11 and we liked it!”
I see you’ve never been on the Phoronix forum.
I was going to say, you haven’t been on the internet long enough if you think there aren’t people out there petty enough to defend a dying display server 😂
How hard do you have to search to find these x11 fanboys? Because whenever this topic comes up, the only detractors I see are users who complain because they can’t use wayland for various reasons.
On the other hand those on the other extreme are easier to find, as they always celebrate x11 users (willingly or not) getting screwed; so toxic.
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