Seriously I’m so confused on this. The USA has a 2 party system. You either vote for Biden or you get Trump. Abstaining from the vote you get Trump. MAGA will have a 100% turnout for their God Emperor.

Trump supports Israel 100%. Again, by not voting for Biden the reality is you’re voting for Trump who is even more supportive of Israel and will also attempt to upend democracy in the west.

You don’t have any options here that support Palestine. The reality of the situation is you either get Biden or Trump and the latter is infinitely worse for the ideal you’re trying to uphold by abstaining. That’s how politics work in the US. You might not like it, it sucks, but unfortunately that’s just the way things work.

CMV

  • @[email protected]
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    32 years ago

    by not voting for Biden the reality is you’re voting for Trump

    only by voting for trump are you voting for trump. voting for literally anyone else is voting against trump. not voting at all is not voting for trump.

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      Technically correct, but not voting at all is failing to do your utmost to prevent fascism, and is thus vile and reprehensible, like voting Trump.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        I’m going to vote, I just haven’t decided whether it will be for cornel west or jill stein

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          Might as well rip your ballot into pieces or light it on fire. It’s functionally equivalent, except insofar as you don’t have to drop it off, and if you choose the burn option, you might get some pleasant heat.

    • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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      Yes but if not enough people pick the same Not Trump we will get Trump anyway.

      Best. Government. Ever. /s

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          Nah, it’s pretty evident that either you don’t understand or are willfully ignorant/trolling. In the off chance that you are in fact that confident in yourself:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting#Tactical_voting

          When I was younger I was one of those “enlightened centrists” who believed in things like the purity of my vote, but reality caught up with me eventually. There is no merit to such purity in first past the post systems with an entrenched plurality.

          The only virtue of a wasted vote is the personal satisfaction that you get out of it, and that personal satisfaction has no real world effect on politics. The only exception is when you are voting for a visionary with overwhelmingly popular support. (i.e. you would know if one is in the race)

          • @[email protected]
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            42 years ago

            When I was younger I was one of those “enlightened centrists” who believed in things like the purity of my vote, but reality caught up with me eventually.

            baby, i’m an anarchist.

            • blightbow
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              No one cares what either of us are, it was only relevant to my anecdote. :P Your commenting pattern appears to have become somewhat manic, so I’ll leave you to it.

              • @[email protected]
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                32 years ago

                Your commenting pattern appears to have become somewhat manic, so I’ll leave you to it.

                I have a strong preference to leave short comments about only one idea at a time.

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            32 years ago

            Nah, it’s pretty evident that either you don’t understand or are willfully ignorant/trolling.

            false dichotomy

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            22 years ago

            The only virtue of a wasted vote is the personal satisfaction that you get out of it, and that personal satisfaction has no real world effect on politics unless you are voting for a visionary with overwhelmingly popular support. (i.e. you would know if one is in the race)

            if i’m wasting my vote then i may as well not vote at all. but i’m going to vote and it’s going to be for someone who won’t sign off on genocide.

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            22 years ago

            impugning my intelligence doesn’t change whether i’m right. your ad hominem says more about you than it does me.