A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

  • @[email protected]
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    501 year ago

    When I’m using the restroom, the last thing I care about is which genitals the person in the other stall has. Why would this be a concern?

    • @[email protected]
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      -201 year ago

      Some girls have a problem with it. Should we ignore their concerns? I wish everyone had no issues at all like you. If that was the case we could just build single coed bathrooms. Possibly that is what we should do from an early age. Get rid of the male/female bathroom entirely so that it is normal to all use the same bathroom and gender identity would no longer matter.

      • Flying Squid
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        61 year ago

        Some people have a problem with using the same bathroom a black person uses. Should we care?

      • @[email protected]
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        301 year ago

        Some girls have a problem with it. Should we ignore their concerns?

        Yes. The concerns of transphobes (and other bigots) should be ignored.

          • @[email protected]
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            191 year ago

            Do you understand the definition of the word? If you have an aversion to sharing a space with trans people, then you’re a transphobe.

            • Pixlbabble
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              -171 year ago

              Gotcha so throw out any concerns females may have…got it.

              • @[email protected]
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                1 year ago

                I can’t imagine that most women would feel more comfortable having a big bearded man in the bathroom who was born female than they would a prototypically feminine woman that was born male.

                I suspect most people that feel this way are unaware of how well most trans people pass.

                Why is it that every time I hear this conversation people on your side are only talking about MtF people and acting like FtM isn’t common? I suspect it’s because the existence of FtM people nullifies your argument and you know it.

                I say this as a cis man, so I’m not claiming to speak for either group. Just applying basic logic and making a guess about the kind of people that would feel threatened.

                Edit: I know I’m coming off aggressive, I truly believe everything I’m saying to my core, and don’t, on any level, understand why everyone doesn’t. If you actually have a counter to this argument, I would be curious to hear it.

            • @[email protected]
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              -11 year ago

              I don’t think they’re in opposition to the rights of trans people to use the bathroom. Way to shift the argument. congrats.

              • @b3nsn0wA
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                41 year ago

                read the post title again. you’re on lemmy, you have no excuse to lose context like you were a bigoted version of ai dungeon.

                  • @b3nsn0wA
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                    41 year ago

                    the entire context of the conversation has been about bathrooms. your reading comprehension is either terrible and you’re lashing out, or you’re lying. take your pick.

      • @[email protected]
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        61 year ago

        Yes, we should ignore them. Just like we ignore homophobes that have a problem sharing with gays, or racists that have a problem sharing with back people.

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      1 year ago

      Honest question, if this is the take why do transgender people need to use the opposite sex bathroom? Why does it matter?

      • @[email protected]
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        121 year ago

        Preface: am not trans, but have thought about and read many things from transppl about everything going on in their heads bc its still sth i struggle with

        This will also vary based on the individual, and there’s probably at least one transperson out there that doesn’t care. But for those that do, I’d think it comes down to it being one more aspect where they’re put into a box they really don’t feel like they belong in. Something that on its own would likely not be a big deal, but if you’re already trying to 1) get away from everything your birth sex has confined you to and 2) try to feel as close to your actual gender as possible in every day life, it can make a difference.

        Really I’m just confused why bathrooms are gender seperated in the first place though, we have stalls for a reason?

      • @[email protected]
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        381 year ago

        I’m not transgender, so you probably should ask them.

        What I do know is that this is a major issue for them, to the point where some of them develop bladder issues from avoiding the restroom out of fear of being bullied. When people tell me that something is causing them to suffer, I tend to believe them, unless there’s some compelling evidence otherwise.

        When I was in college, I knew a transman. One day, I walked into the men’s restroom as he was walking out, and one of the other men in the restroom turned to his friend and said, “What’s she doing in here?” (Meaning the transman.) Now imagine if you had to deal with the possibility of being bullied that way (or worse!) every time you wanted to use the restroom.