This makes me 😭
UPDATE: Thanks @[email protected] for this update: The issue has now been commented on and was closed by the maintainer, where they explained why those blocks would be nonsense. But it appears the OP wants to still talk with maintainer privately about it.
the discussion is happening here: https://github.com/7c/fakefilter/issues/73
Someone working at Proton has commented on the issue, the list maintainer wanted to take the discussion with proton private so we have only a few posts from them.
If you want my personal take:
It’s very clear how the list maintainer opposes anonymity in the internet in any form, which I see as an attack on freedom, journalism and activism.
I’m not a fan of Protonmail of any sort and in fact I consider that their privacy is lacking… but I really hope they can talk some sense into this guy. This block list seems to be used by a lot of webs that will start blocking virtually every private email provider.
(Edit: I assumed the person that posted the email list was a maintainer, but they don’t seem to have a “contributor” or “owner” badge, so idk. Maybe they are just very angry at privacy and anonymity on the internet)
They’re not the maintainer.
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Try Tuta Mail
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Is addy.io any good? I’ve poked around a bit but not investigated deeply
As a paying customer, it’s good if you want a burner email address that forwards to your actual email address. Not sure if they’re offering full blown mailing servers now, though. Pretty much does what I need it to do, personally.
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That’s basically all I want as a mail edge
They’re talking out their bum. It’s as private as any email service can be.
Nope. Refer the links below.
https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/07/protonmail_hands_user_ip_address_police/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/
https://cyberwarzone.com/protonmail-complies-with-a-record-6000-government-requests-for-user-data-in-2022/
https://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/
If you look at what data they handed over you’ll realize this is a positive thing. You have verifiable proof that the contents of your mails is private, and you’re calling it a negative thing that they have your IP address??
Do you have articles showing Tutanota refusing to do the same?
I am not here to entertain Whataboutery. I am not a shill for Tuta Mail and will abandon it as well if it does the same thing. I don’t rely on e-mail for communications. I only suggested Tuta Mail in the other thread because it is the least worst of them all.
If your argument is “don’t use email”, you’re right, but doing a bad job articulating it.
Yep. Find me a service provider that risks being arrested to deny lawful demands in Switzerland. I’ll wait.
important to emphasize here that email is inherently not very private. Proton is one of the best email providers for privacy, but for things you really need to be private (eg organizing protests in less-than-friendly countries) you shouldn’t use email at all.
Which is precisely why I said “as any email service can be”.
yes I agree with you lol just trying to be extra clear for people who might be confused
Does proton do anything other than encrypting the email file? TLS should be enough to encrypt the transfer.
They do lots. They open images and other attachments on their servers so they can’t be used to track you and filter tracking links when possible.
Okey, that sounds super nice. I might just switch over my email as well to them, not just use them for their calendar.
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I clicked for you. From the website:
(SFW)
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I would love to know this too ☺️
why would anyone ever be like this?
This is not the list maintainer. Just a rando who opened a request
Maybe a fed, corpo or authoritarian
I was thinking the same. Would be mighty convenient for them if people had to switch to sellout mail providers because the alternatives are all blocked.