And Android runs a shit load of portable devices beyond phones.
Most handheld store scanners are Android based today. Inventory management devices (like warehouses have used since the nineties) used to be Palm-based, are largely Android now, because it’s core is Linux. They don’t have to run the standard Android shell, they can run their own.
I’ve used medical monitors that are Android based.
Well, yes, I prefer desktop. But you know, in some countries some people have nothing else than phones. I am glad that Mullvad has posted this and hopefully Google can fix the bugs soon.
Well, I didn’t see the other comments till now, and wrote Upvoted as an alternative to Insightful which I was intending it to sound. I appreciated your comment because I think Google likely have their own priorities.
All fine. Your comment where you mentioned autistic suddenly made me “understand” the let-s-call-them misunderstandings in this thread. And I agree about the toxic world, but we’re all in the same boat, so I’d say we may as well be nice to each other at least a few seconds per day. Sometimes small things can make a big difference.
You said “imagine doing a thing” implying it was a really dumb idea… Like imagine eating a tidepod… Crazy right?
But it was “imagine using a android” which like 70% of the world uses… Now your implying 70% of the world is doing something so dumb it is surprising you.
People sensibly ask you, what should they be using instead if they care about freedom etc, and your reply is use something that doesn’t exist yet…
So now the full circle is imagine doing a thing, crazy! , you should really be using something that doesn’t exist yet… You created a rhetorical situation thats impossible, and that’s why people respond very negatively to you. Your logic is inconsistent.
I haven’t been rude to you. Or at least I don’t think I have been.
I explained everything as clearly as I could.
Remember with communication, it’s not your intent it’s the perception that’s important. And yes your initial phrase came off as hostile and condescending
Well, we live in right now, and right now, mobile Linux just isn’t suitable for many people, and the hardware that actually supports mobile Linux is a whole other story. It’s certainly not possible to just not have a phone at all anymore, either. Calyx, Graphene and Lineage are the current best options. To say someone is stupid for using these is, well, stupid.
Okay, but saying “Imagine using Android” paints a certain picture. And, yes, relying on phones is dangerous. It’s not that it’s impossible to live without a smartphone, it’s that arbitrary systems have been put up in society that have created a large dependence on them.
That’s nonsense. You can pretty much deal with any unrooted Android phone with Android 9 and above with this smartphone guide. https://lemmy.ml/post/128667
What does stock even mean? No “factory” shipped phone is going to be ideal for privacy and security. Stock to me means the custom Android build firmware that company shipped on the phone. As long as I am merely uninstalling programs, modifying permissions and firewalling the system, without rooting or unlocking it, it still is a stock factory phone. Within minutes I can return it to its “factory” status.
deleted by creator
LineageOS with Jerboa over Mullvad VPN here. Not many options on mobile devices.
And Android runs a shit load of portable devices beyond phones.
Most handheld store scanners are Android based today. Inventory management devices (like warehouses have used since the nineties) used to be Palm-based, are largely Android now, because it’s core is Linux. They don’t have to run the standard Android shell, they can run their own.
I’ve used medical monitors that are Android based.
deleted by creator
Lineage OS is so much better than stock Android
Well, yes, I prefer desktop. But you know, in some countries some people have nothing else than phones. I am glad that Mullvad has posted this and hopefully Google can fix the bugs soon.
deleted by creator
Upvoted.
deleted by creator
Well, I didn’t see the other comments till now, and wrote Upvoted as an alternative to Insightful which I was intending it to sound. I appreciated your comment because I think Google likely have their own priorities.
deleted by creator
All fine. Your comment where you mentioned autistic suddenly made me “understand” the let-s-call-them misunderstandings in this thread. And I agree about the toxic world, but we’re all in the same boat, so I’d say we may as well be nice to each other at least a few seconds per day. Sometimes small things can make a big difference.
Imagine making idiotic statements at this point.
deleted by creator
You’re the rude ignoramus here. Do you use iPhone by any chance as your daily phone? Or an impractical Linux phone?
deleted by creator
Then why did you exactly say “imagine using android”? Makes no sense even if you were trying to make a joke hidden beneath many layers of logic.
deleted by creator
You and I don’t have to imagine that, dummy. We’ve already done it.
deleted by creator
I’m not accusing you. I’m stating a fact that I included myself in… You are indeed a dim bulb in the pack.
deleted by creator
You’re not very self aware, are you?
deleted by creator
You said “imagine doing a thing” implying it was a really dumb idea… Like imagine eating a tidepod… Crazy right?
But it was “imagine using a android” which like 70% of the world uses… Now your implying 70% of the world is doing something so dumb it is surprising you.
People sensibly ask you, what should they be using instead if they care about freedom etc, and your reply is use something that doesn’t exist yet…
So now the full circle is imagine doing a thing, crazy! , you should really be using something that doesn’t exist yet… You created a rhetorical situation thats impossible, and that’s why people respond very negatively to you. Your logic is inconsistent.
deleted by creator
I haven’t been rude to you. Or at least I don’t think I have been.
I explained everything as clearly as I could.
Remember with communication, it’s not your intent it’s the perception that’s important. And yes your initial phrase came off as hostile and condescending
As opposed to iOS, the beautiful walled of garden of Eden?
And use what? iOS?
deleted by creator
Well, we live in right now, and right now, mobile Linux just isn’t suitable for many people, and the hardware that actually supports mobile Linux is a whole other story. It’s certainly not possible to just not have a phone at all anymore, either. Calyx, Graphene and Lineage are the current best options. To say someone is stupid for using these is, well, stupid.
deleted by creator
Okay, but saying “Imagine using Android” paints a certain picture. And, yes, relying on phones is dangerous. It’s not that it’s impossible to live without a smartphone, it’s that arbitrary systems have been put up in society that have created a large dependence on them.
deleted by creator
Stock android is definitely enshitified - but there is still hope with custom os’s
That’s nonsense. You can pretty much deal with any unrooted Android phone with Android 9 and above with this smartphone guide. https://lemmy.ml/post/128667
Then its no longer stock?
What does stock even mean? No “factory” shipped phone is going to be ideal for privacy and security. Stock to me means the custom Android build firmware that company shipped on the phone. As long as I am merely uninstalling programs, modifying permissions and firewalling the system, without rooting or unlocking it, it still is a stock factory phone. Within minutes I can return it to its “factory” status.
deleted by creator
Privacy is when you fully isolate yourself from the world.
deleted by creator
What other alternative is there?
deleted by creator