I’m currently still using gmail unfortunately
Cock.li (airmail.cc)looks very nice but it is invite only
Haven’t seen his answer here yet, but I use Zoho. It has a free tier IIRC and supports custom domain.
Not sure how private it is, tho.
mailbox.org is quite good. I prefer them over protonmail because I want to use my own client. If you don’t care about using a web UI, use protonmail, otherwise use mailbox.org. you can also take a look at tutanota
Also comes with an XMPP account built in, although they should probably update their Ejabberd sometimes 😅
Opinion on the price changes? 1 eur plan doesn’t work with custom domains anymore so I’m looking for alternatives.
Tbh I did not realize their prices increased. I’m happy to pay for their service though. It’s the only subscription I pay.
Strictly speaking it’s not a price increase, the 1 EUR plan is still there. However, support for custom domains has been removed and is only available from 3 EUR plan and upwards under the new pricing scheme.
I’m kind of grandfathered into the old 1 EUR plan that still supports custom domains, but I can’t extend it any further. This means when my account credit dries up I need to choose one of the new pricing schemes ( 1 eur w/o custom domain vs 3 eur … etc.)
Did not know this… Also currently on the 1 EUR plan since it was the best bang for buck that included custom domains. Might start looking into other options when my plan runs out
Search your inbox, they (mailbox.org admin) have sent multiple emails in the past urging users to choose between the new pricing schemes.
As for the alternatives, I’m considering runbox.com and migadu.com, but not entirely sure.
migadu does seem like a good option. Curious what you have chosen? I am also looking at fastmail standard to replace simplelogin email aliasing since it would be the same price as simplelogin + migadu/runbox.
Sorry for the late answer. I ended up choosing Midagu for the time being. Unlimited inbox sounded attractive enough as using alias in my use case wasn’t cutting it.
I could invite you.
This would be nice
I use disroot.
They now require non free software to create an account which is a deal breaker for me
iCloud Mail. I have a Proton account, but the app takes several seconds to load and show me my messages on my phone and I hate the delay. Plus, as of iOS 17, Mail now autofills email verification codes and delete the email afterwards. Plus Mail is built into Siri and all that jazz, so it sometimes shows possible events that I can add to the calendar. So convenient.
Selfhosted mail-in-a-box solution. Easy to maintain and configure.
- It just works
Protonmail, but not really because of encryption. I just liked their Android client and webmail the most. I’ve had sensitive backups on Proton Drive for a long time, so that also played a role in the choice.
I hosted my own server for quite a few years, but the SMTP clients (Thunderbird, Evolution, K9 mail) all doing things slightly differently made me give up. Biggest push was that K9 mail didn’t really move deleted mail to trash. These were probably dovecot configuration issues, but I got tired of searching for solutions. Never had any deliverability issues.
any competently run service that gets you away from the tech conglomerates will work
fuck proton mail, bring your own encryption
I switched to hosting my own inbound mail. I mostly switched because after trying a few providers they almost all dropped some email that I wanted (not Spam, completely dropped) so I set up my own. It is quite nice to have full control over configuration, filtering, backups and whatever else.
Right now I am using a paid rely to send, but maybe I’ll see how my IP’s reputation at some point.
I use Tutanota I think it’s a really good private email client.
For the Proton people. I learnt about a guy that ended up in a US court and they asked proton for all his emails and the handed them right away, no questions asked.
While this is undesirable, you can’t expect a corporation to break the law for you just because. proton at least is better than the rest of the corporate, for-profit providers who sell your data to the highest bidder.
Different country, this shouldn’t have happened.
Got a source for that? Proton isn’t able to access to any user emails. I believe Swiss law also makes it illegal for them to provide user information without a (Swiss) court order.
The only case I’ve heard of that was similar was when the Swiss court ordered them to provide all the info they had on a user. This was the last IP address they logged on from and a recovery email the user had entered. The recovery email is an optional thing the user had set up on their account. They also used this same email address to sign up for a Twitter account. They were able to get enough data from Twitter to identify the person.
Courts can require you to provide your password in some circumstances. Where your email is stored is irrelevant.
This wasn’t the case, at all. Proton simply handed the entire mailbox decrypted.
That seems unlikely since your data is encrypted with a password they don’t have.
I’m simply reporting on what I’ve been told and saw. Form what I read seem to be using asymmetric encryption and generating a private key itself protected with your password when you sign up. There’s no guarantee they don’t have an unprotected copy of that as well.
Vast majority of Proton users signed up because Proton promises your data is safe at rest. Even from them. In fact, they specifically advertise this protects them from subpoenas because they cannot provide decrypted copy of user’s data.
Of course, the only emails that are encrypted with proton are proton->proton. Mail between proton and anyone else, like say gmail, isn’t encrypted unless you pgp it separately.
You were being mislead with false information. Share appropriate sources to back up whatever you are saying. Proton has regular audits for security and encryption for all their products, which makes whatever you’ve been told pretty much false information
What’s more likely? a) I’m being mislead by someone that actually got into legal trouble that involved them and isn’t profiting in any way from it or b) You / everyone else that simply is eating their marketing and PR is being mislead in some way.
Truth is, none of us can prove their claims and auditors are true.
In that case Proton wouldn’t be providing the data, the user would be. Proton can’t provide what they don’t have.
Yes I do, and I tried encouraged my source to make the entire thing public but no luck there. In this case the person was already identified it wasn’t much of an issue, the issue is that Proton simply provided everything to an US court without even a flinch. Apparently they can access user emails and they do without much fuzz.
That doesn’t hold up against the publicly available source code for their applications, white papers on their security and encryption, and multiple independent security reviews. And again, they are legally required to ignore US court orders. Only a Swiss court order can compel them to provide user information.
Yes, I know about all of that.
That’s called hearsay.
show the source mothe*****r
I’ve been using ProtonMail for a while now and it works very well, they also offer a drive, calendar, password manager, VPN; you can choose if you want all the features or just email.
I also tried Tutanota and they do a good job as well, they’re a smaller company and don’t have as many features as Proton but if all you need is reliable, private e-mail, it’s a good option.
Any email with cock in the name will trigger filtering. It also has the side effect of making me unemployable
Proton because it came with the vpn.
Email has no privacy, almost all my email communication is with companies I buy things from.
Moreover, I like that it removes power from google.
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