Bottom Biden

  • wheresmysurplusvalue [comrade/them]
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    482 years ago

    “Congress appropriated fiscal year 2019 funds for the construction of border barrier in the Rio Grande Valley, and DHS is required to use those funds for their appropriated purpose,” the statement said.

    They were just following orders

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      332 years ago

      is required to use those funds for their appropriated purpose

      Biden is the president, the Democrats control the senate. What you’re telling me is that they can literally bomb Pakistan if they want, but they can’t use that money to feed the poor instead of building a wall that won’t stop people from entering the USA.

      • footfaults [none/use name]
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        172 years ago

        It is with great regret that the Democrats keep throwing migrants into concentration camps. The money has been allocated and they have to keep the camps filled, because we must preserve our precious Norms and Values and the Rule of Law

    • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      Im seeing people argue this relentlessly. If it fails, they point to the “new student debt relief” but this is pretty blatant lol.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        212 years ago

        That’s why it’s extra fucking evil that it’s not even NEW debt forgiveness. They’re just finally getting around to doing what was mandated they do in prior years which just wasn’t getting done.

        “We’re doing what we were supposed to be doing all along but years late, applaud for us!”

  • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
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    292 years ago

    Information like this can never meaningfully change their positions because they’re bought into a heavily mediated information bubble that filters out or discredits any criticism of the Biden regime. The DNC has created its own heavily mediated bizarro version of Qanon.

  • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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    362 years ago

    Love it when the good president does the good things, like build fash walls that don’t do anything but demonize brown people and waste money, especially when they violate indigenous graves to do it!!!

    Thanks Biden

  • quarrk [he/him]
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    142 years ago

    Mr Adams is travelling to Mexico, Colombia and Ecuador this week to discourage migrants from setting out. “We are at capacity,” he said on Tuesday.

    The imagery is hilarious here

    Speaking to the poor, tired, and huddled masses, the mayor of the home of the Statue of Liberty says, “Stay out, this is like such a bad time for me.” A few audience members exchange confused glances as Adams tucks a white napkin in his collar, and a butler sets a lobster on a silver platter in front of him. “Just stay in your summer houses until things die down.”

  • Moss [they/them]
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    722 years ago

    There will be no mental gymnastics because liberals simply won’t acknowledge this

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      392 years ago

      “there are no concentration camps (for kidz!™), you silly tankie! biden solved all that blob-no-thoughts

  • JealousCactus [comrade/them]
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    632 years ago

    You see for Trump and Republicans the cruelty is the point, but for Democrats the cruelty is just an unfortunate consequence

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      622 years ago

      Reminds me of back on reddit when someone pointed out to a lib that they stopped caring about the migrants being in concentration camps the moment Biden became president and the response was “Well where else are we supposed to put them?”

      How about shutting the camps down and allowing free travel

  • AItoothbrush
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    42 years ago

    Nobody said biden is good. Hes the better option. The other two options are an old dried up french fry whos going to jail and a psychopath. American politics is fucked and it was always fucked because its designed that way.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        92 years ago

        https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/05/white-house-waives-26-laws-for-us-mexico-border-wall-construction.html

        What exactly is your plan for “not doing that” because electing liberals explicitly failed to allow us to “not do that” in the last 12 hours.

        We’re building new walls and installing razor wire in rivers to flay immigrants children. The camps still exist, how exactly has electing Biden helped this situation.

        At least when Trump built the wall it was a grift to his dumbshit contractor buddies and the wall blew over in 6 months and had gaps so big they tried to plug them with shipping containers. Thank God we’ve got the mature pragmatic dems in charge to make sure the wall gets built correctly now.

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
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      142 years ago

      Nobody said biden is good.

      Then we should continue to point out when he does bad things, no? I’m genuinely curious what your point is here? Should we not be concerned when “the lesser evil” does something bad? I don’t see what the value is in saying “Trump is worse” here. Trump isn’t president, Biden is.

      • AItoothbrush
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        2 years ago

        I interpreted the title as op saying biden and trump are equally as bad which isnt true in my opinion. My solution would be to fucking wreak shit and replace the system in murica but we all know that wont happen. I think even one change like a ranking based voting system could change things big time. No more two party system because you can safely vote for your actual party of choice. Still as an european im not planning on solving america by proxy lol. Here in europe we have our own shit to deal with.

    • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]
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      272 years ago

      That would be great if dem supporters actually criticized this policy (and engaged politically outside of the kiddy pool of republican-democrat electoralism), but the majority don’t seem to think it is an issue. Many believe that Biden shouldn’t be criticized at all because it helps trump. Cough Cough.

      If american politics is fubar then it’s fubar and we should be done with the facade of the “better option” and strive to redesign it rather than acquiesce to the horror.

      • AItoothbrush
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        22 years ago

        Biden already looks bad. The only way to make a politician do what you want is to criticize them. Always supporting someone because they wear the same colours as you is idiotic so yesh i agree with you. Idk how you would change american politics. Its like changing the rules of a game that youre trapped in. Maybe a civil war would be a good thing in the end but idk.

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          2 years ago

          The only way to make a politician do what you want is to criticize them.

          Yup, theyre all so thin skinned we managed to prevent wars based on lies and get universal healthcare by calling Bush gay.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          132 years ago

          The only way to make a politician do what you want is to criticize them.

          Who opened the fucking lib gate.

          Literally all democrats did for the last 10 years has been criticize right wing politicians how’s that worked out.

          The fucking Jan 6th hogs had a better understanding of how material conditions affect politics they just made the mistake of overestimating their popular support.

          If you honestly think the only way to influence politicians is “criticism” youre already a neutered counter revolutionary.

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Hes the better option.

      In what way? The wall is going up, the kids are still in cages, COVID runs rampant, the economy is in the shitter and getting worse, LGBT/women’s rights are under assault and getting worse, oil drilling leases are being signed away like nothing, Ukraine is being drip-fed weapons to prolong the war without end, Sinophobia is national policy in all but name, and federal police funding is at an all-time high. If Trump had won in 2020, what would be worse or even different?

      • AItoothbrush
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        22 years ago

        From what i see and hear it slows down the enshitification but doesnt prevent it. Im far too unwise to solve a problem on the other side of the world. My best solution would be protesting if i lived in the usa. Gather your local community and try to make small changes at first and if everyone makes small changes thats a big change.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The only difference since Biden took office is that liberals are telling protestors to stop protesting the same things that happened under Trump because now the protests are highlighting the fact liberals didn’t change anything and making them look bad.

          At least when a republican is president liberals pretend to care about minorities, when there’s a dem president those same criticisms from those same minorities are just handwoven away as Russian disinformatsia.

        • Cloudx189 [comrade/them]
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          202 years ago

          Protestesting national foreign policy? With media blackouts and a militarized police and border force? From a barely nascent left that can barely fathom the plight of immigration against a far right that craves for the suffering of “illegals” . Ya, no.

        • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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          202 years ago

          Pretty much. Dipshit hasn’t and will never respond of course; I wonder if this was just bait to get some screengrabs and crawl back out into the wider lemmyverse

    • egg1918 [she/her]
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      302 years ago

      whos going to jail

      Any day now right? Surely there’s no way he wriggles his way out of this one!

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          142 years ago

          My bet is nothing substantial will happen on the criminal front until the election, and after that good fucking luck if he wins lol

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          He’ll get house arrest at any of his properties plus he can leave for anything he defines as campaigning which will be literally everything.

          More realistically literally nothing will happen to him but that’s best case scenario.

          Lins are already laying the groundwork of "you can’t charge him or hold him in contempt of anything because then he’ll use it as evidence the system discriminated against him so the smart move is to keep letting him get away with everything so he can’t claim victimhood.

    • queermunist she/her
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      92 years ago

      The largest protest in American history happened under Trump.

      Just something to think about.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        And accomplished absolutely nothing and everybody was back in their cars 10 minutes after the end of the officially sanctioned protesting hours.

        Liberal protests are by definition useless because if you were doing anything that could effect change liberals would be condemning it.

        • queermunist she/her
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          62 years ago

          It accomplished nothing after being captured by Democrats and channeled into electoral politics. People thought they could vote to defund the police.

          Democrats promising harm reduction convinced them to go home and stay home.

          • Adkml [he/him]
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            22 years ago

            Oh figured you were talking about the women’s March which I thought was advertised as the largest at the time just based on numbers.

            That too didn’t really go great looking at where things are now compared to then.

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    2 years ago

    why’s everyone calling it a wall? now that Biden’s president, it’s a containment perimeter. much different and less bad.

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    2 years ago

    This is an evidence based wall. It’s a smartwall you absolute simpleton.

    Or more likely: It doesn’t look like anything to me.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      342 years ago

      Actually the cold hard factual numbers indicate that human suffering there is only just as bad as it might be somewhere else. Emotional much? smuglord

    • RustyVenture [he/him]
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      302 years ago

      This is actually what libs are saying on reddit-logo . “Trump wanted a wall from coast to coast, this is more strategic and just patches up gaps in the middle.” Obviously no one acknowledging the environmental impacts or destruction of indigenous graves. Then you have the “liberal as they come” clowns saying this is good, actually, because the country is being overrun and we can’t house everyone. Lastly, the Russiagate drips who are saying our adversaries are encouraging mass migration to destabilize the US.

      Honestly, the last few weeks have made me go from thinking these shitstains need gulag to thinking they deserve pit and only pit

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          Oh yeah. Here are the three I was perusing this morning on the way into work:

          Looks like there’s more people dunking on this in those threads than there was earlier.

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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            82 years ago

            Yeah, when I went to look on my own I was pleasantly sruprised by the comments. There were definitly people justifying it, or focusing on how Republicans would react (a common tactic to distract when Democrats do something bad) but they arent too terrible really.

            • RustyVenture [he/him]
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              52 years ago

              Yeah, glad to see better takes have filtered in later on. They and similar articles are still buried in controversial, though, and now I’m seeing the justification is that Biden is just doing what Congress told Trump to do when they appropriated funding for it in 2019 so there’s nuance and it’s still Trump’s fault. It’s a truly bizarre place in that sub. I don’t even know why I do it to myself; I got banned years ago when I was still a LIB for making a joke about the GOP leadership dying in the fire they started during one of the shutdowns lmao. Like, not even outright wishing for it, just riffing off of someone else’s comment about Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell lighting America on fire or something.

              Also, because I was searching for it and couldn’t find it and thought I was going crazy, here’s the delusional “Russia is behind this” thread. Turns out they were in different comments on an article about Mayorkas’ statement.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      322 years ago

      This is basically their argument.

      “Sure Biden explicitly said he wouldn’t build one new inch of wall but these are funds that were already earmarked and if they don’t use them it goes away so it would be a waste of money not to.”

      “Why not just not use the money and not build the wall”

      “You don’t know how politics wprks”

      • TheOtherwise [none/use name]
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        22 years ago

        Whats the actual law here? Like is it that the money should be used by x date for y purpose or else it’s forfeited, or is it an actual mandate that it MUST be used by x date for y purposes or etc etc

        Obviously, whatever it is, they should say fuck no regardless, but im curious.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          12 years ago

          I don’t think it’s even that. They’re waiving the clean air and clean water acts to build the wall so if there is a law saying they have to spend it I’d live to hear some liberal explain why Biden can ignore thenlaws about protecting the environment but not the ones that say you have to spend money on racism.