Why are people always trying to get people here to
???Everyone here knows how the electoral system in the US works, and has madeca decision in whether they want to are not. The kind of people in a left political space are more politically aware than average.
The vast majority of people in the US don’t vote and are not generally politically aware. If you really need to
evangelize go out and talk to them. People here are not get-able, they’ve made their decision one way or another.And most importantly, the people on this site who live in the US are not going to be the deciding votes in US elections, especially presidential (because that’s what all US
evangelists are always talking about) There’s not enough communists or anarchists to blame your electoral losses on. Look into the 10s of millions of peoole that don’t vote and don’t have an exact reason for it, other than inherently knowing that the system they live under doesn’t workthere is no point in voting, all we’re doing is lending out tacit support to the system that will do as it wishes regardless
I vote Dem straight-ballot, because of the harm reduction, and also because I don’t buy the argument that having Republicans in power is energizing leftist sentiments more than it is emboldening outright fascim. But I am sympathetic to the idea that electoralism is a cul-de-sac where leftist political energy goes to run out of steam and die. I don’t want to pretend that I’m totally sure of what the right approach is.
Joe Biden is building the wall and let Roe get overrturned. Democrats don’t even do harm reduction now.
The only difference is whether or not the president releases rainbow balloons at pride or rants about the gays ruining Christmas.
What the fuck is
doing that doesn’t continue or even expand upon what 
did?I’m not voting for either party. Now’s not the time for division
You can vote for everyone, so that no party feels left out.
I live in New England, there’s no point voting. I love democracy.
Why living in New England gives no point to voting?
In MA at least most races are unopposed de jure, and the rest are unopposed de fact. There’s a few competitive primaries between a bad dem and a less bad dem. But even those are rare. There’s definitly no point to voting for President here.
If I was in a swing state I would because Project 2025 is genuinely terrifying, but I’m not so I won’t.
Honestly, project 2025 is what changed my mind about voting democrat.
Voting in the US is like having the option of 5 fruits, but through the magic of “democracy” you only get to vote for either apples or bananas or you could throw your vote away on oranges or something. Meanwhile, I just want mango’s. Since voting will never get me mango’s (communism) why would I engage. It’s materially inconsequential. It’s not like the political parties decide what happen anyways
I have voted Democrat my entire life and things have gotten worse. Voting changes nothing
That is true, we dont vote democrat for progress, we vote democrat because republicans want to annihilate us. Voting democrat is just a patch to give us more time to organize. But, yeah, voting for any liberal will move the Overton Window to the right every tims. That is an irrefutable fact. The point of voting democrat is just for it to not move as much as it does with republicans.
We cannot overthrow the bourgeoise by voting at all. But voting does changes the speed in which things detereorate. Republicans are accelerationist in this regard.
no democrat did anything about the overturning of Roe, no democrat has done anything about the wall or the caged children. no democrat is materially supporting the palestinian uprising. and on and on and on.
you think democrats are going to do anything about freikorps doing pogroms against us?
the part that’s always missing from
dorks is that delaying an enemy only matters if you’re getting something out of having extra time. is molotov-ribbentrop if the soviets proceeded to not build any tanks.This is factually wrong, Biden has actively pursued new, but different, wall and child cage measures, like renaming the facilities. Please be more informed the next time you say a Democrat has done nothing. /s
Not anymore. If Dems want my vote they have to do better than strikebreaker Joe.
no
I’ll vote Green. There are no PSL or SA or CPUSA for me to vote for. It’s the left most option I have. And if not a green slot, then Libertarian just because they are more sane than Republicans and don’t care too much for imperalism or culture war bullshit.
is not “harm reduction”.Maybe write in Eugene Debbs. Hear he’s still running from a cell somewhere.
In
we’re under the 3rd Red Scare and 2nd Lavender Scare. Fascist death spiral will continue until socialism improves.Hold up, you would rather vote Libertarian than Democrat? Libertarians are rich people that want no government intervention on minimum wage or environmental laws. They are the craziest out of all the parties in America.
I live in a +18 hard R district. I have no representation. The nearest Green chapter is 2 counties away and it’s a professor from Lansing and a handful of waywards, half of them
including the professor himself.- Sans a Green, there’s usually a Libertarian on the ballot next to Republican A,B,C, …and 1/4 times there’s a Democrat. After the stunt they pulled with
I want the Democratic Corporation to cease to exist. No more “half measures”.
They’ll never get another phone call, dime, or second of mine no matter how much they beg or try to shame while they fund and boost far right Republicans as “strategy”.
Did you know Trump’s #1 briber was Clinton’s #3? 
It’s a fuck you to both Democrats and Republicans that counts cause I can’t just write in Mickey Mouse (Green Party). They also want ranked choice voting. Case in point in the state of Maine, Greens and Libertarians teamed up to get RCV passed in 2017.
- what have Democrats been doing with the minimum wage and environmentalism? $7.25/hr last moved in 2009, of since the costs of livng has skyrocketed. Maybe a fart in the wind on environmentalism while approving more drilling and destructive wars. Climate enhanced storms do more damage than they are wiling to invest.
But you know anytime Zelensky takes a shit in his
burn pit of a country, we seem to have endless pockets of billions laying around to make an even bigger burn pit. (Paltry crumbs for our own chemical disaster zones at home). Then they are busy arresting and beating demonstrators demanding they do something.-
Yes they’re loony, but they aren’t going to try to make me illegal and have solidarity with reguards to war, even if the place they are coming from differs from mine the objective is the same. I’ll take the risk of an incompotent pothead over a fascist or fascist adjacent chumming “pragmatic”
liberal. -
They won’t win, but maybe 5% somewhere gets heads in board rooms panicing and policies start moving.
They are the lesser evil than democrats where I am mostly because my options on the ballot suck ass. It’s a chaos vote. As Lawrence O’Donnel said when he was working in the DNC, they didn’t have to listen to anything on the left and we had to prove to them that we are capable of not voting for them..
It isn’t like the Democrats have any legal obligation to honor my vote anyways even if there was a progressive option. Hell Joe Biden himself swooped in a few counties away from me to prop up a republican to prevent a progressive dem win for the modest fee of $200,000. if that shows you where Democrat’s true heart lies. I could just not vote and save myself the hassle, but it’s cathartic, semi meaningful on a local level, and I will not give Democrats any more life support. They don’t deserve to represent the people.
- Sans a Green, there’s usually a Libertarian on the ballot next to Republican A,B,C, …and 1/4 times there’s a Democrat. After the stunt they pulled with
In terms of how far away from the truth, yeah, libertarians are the most deranged. But liberals are straight up bloodthirsty and don’t mind putting us on the edge of nuclear war. Republicans are, well, even worse than that. Libertarians are more of a meme and while their policies would surely be disastrous, they usually can at least be trusted to oppose wars. Usually.
Trump was a meme too, and see where the meme got us.
Biden is a meme waiting for a coffin
Damn, it sounds like the opposing candidate should’ve campaigned better. Or you know, not support trump in the primary.
Hilary supported Trump in the primary?
they ran a “pied piper” strategy, it’s fairly well-known around here and you can probably google “clinton pied piper”
They did the exact same thing they’re doing now, they’re asking the DNC friendly media to focus on Trump (not that they need encouragement) and not focus on other candidates as much, with the assumption that Trump winning the primary means an easy win for Biden. It failed in 2016 and they’re too up their own asses to realize they need a new strategy.
where did that bring you Jack
Dems want to build cop cities and Bidens on track to deport more people than Trump
I cannot in good conscience vote for that, it would be immoral and unprincipled, so I simply will not vote in a national election
I mean rather than not voting why dont you vote third party then just for morale?
