We’ve known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it’s a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.
Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they’re not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we’ve seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?
If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.
Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I’ve been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don’t understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.
Elaine
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When Elon realizes retirement age for women is lower than for men, he will transition, and that will be his new name. The internet will implode at that point
Go back to Reddit.
Really, you belong there.
Aw chum, don’t worry, you can block me if I bother you so much
People should separate the quality of the products, produced by the workers, from the batshit insane politics and mindset of the owners. I have a Tesla, and I recognize Elon is a protofascist dick, but the CEOs of other companies are just better at maintaining their image, they’re part of the same parasitic class that Elon is a part of.
I bought a Tesla for the power, infrastructure, etc. but I don’t generally recommend Teslas. If you don’t care about 0-60 time, and you can hold out until 2024/2025, lots of EVs will adopt the NACS standard and be able to use almost the entire supercharging network. Other vehicles will likely be better and/or cheaper.
As a BMW driver, I am pleased that there is a new asshole driver car
We’ll come back to you when the discussion circles back to turn signals.
As with any [email protected], its because the signals are broken, like most of the rest of the car.
I can easily tell the difference between a 2013 vs 2023 Toyota Camry.
I literally can’t tell the difference between a 2013 and 2023 Model S.
That’s the real problem.
I think you’re living in an online Reddit bubble. I’m not an Elon fan at all, and most people in the real world don’t drive cars based on their political affiliation.Lots of CEOs of major car companies are slimy and have been involved in scandals.
I bought my model 3 for $50k CAD after incentives and tax which is expensive but not an absurd price, and have had 0 problems with it after 2 years and it’s an amazing car. I know about the quality control issues with some cars but the warranty is good. I’m pretty sure the oldest Teslas on the road are 13+ years old so I’m pretty happy I’ll get to drive it for so long.
Counterpoint: Anyone who bought a combustion engine car in the past few years is a tool.
See how that works?
other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.
You know you can post an unpopular opinion without being a completely unlikable cunt, right?
I struggled with this for a long time on that other site. I’m trying to do things differently here.
I had a blanket “Cool guys don’t look back at explosions” policy to posting on pretty much every other site. I decided to turn over a new leaf on the Fediverse, and try not to post anything I don’t actually want a reply to. It does tend to gentle you down a bit. Also, I noticed other people were at least giving themselves a chance to form friendships that way, so yeah, new deal.
The thing that really sucks about social media is how many people are just using you as a vent pillow to scream into. It’s amazing that so many people are using so many websites that pretty much amount to somebody else’s emotional punching bag.
Wait, how do you form a friendship on sites like this? Best I’ve had are brief friendly interactions and then I forget their username unless it’s one of the novelty accounts, in which case “interactions” feel more like celebrity appearances or like a performance than anything else.
My dude I do not even know. I have managed to be around some people who aren’t like me and gathered the strong impression that people were using social media like it was social, and not anti-social, which I am fluent in. So now I am on a brand-new policy, in the dark and stumbling around. All I can tell you is that the other people are using this thing to meet each other and exchange phone numbers eventually like actual friends. Which makes fuckin sense. If you reply back to other people like you are texting, it changes the nature of the thing. We must both be at peace with letting the thread drop, tho.
I must remind you that the normy world has been using social media to find other people to have sex with for a while, basically pull up the app, swipe swipe swipe until you find a friend for the night and put the phone away, instead of letting the demon consume the next 4 hours somehow. There’s a whole nother paradigm. It seems more entertaining.
But yeah, I think you just treat threads like chats, be cool, and see what happens eventually.
You just avoid that Reddit thing where you come in with your 1500 word truth dunk, that ain’t it.
Yeah it’s crazy to me that people can find a sexual partner on a site like Reddit (or are you just talking about tinder and apps like that?). Meanwhile I’m here avoiding even sharing my province, though I was open about being in Canada. Probably doesn’t help that my desire to be social itself waxes and wanes.
No, I do mean sites like Reddit. The advanced users are making everything act like a dating site when they need it to, because things like tinder don’t work for everyone, so it’s double crazy that they’re making Reddit work for that.
What I was truly referring to is Discord, and all those little communities in there, lots of people making their connections, not just sex, but international friend networking. Snapchat, group chats, all that, they’re busy doing the same, there. Meanwhile, I live as a ghost, interacting with dozens of people a day online, thousands over the years, with nothing much to show for it.
Even out in the real world I’m the kinda guy who can work some place for two years and leave with no new numbers in my phone. It does keep me out of the drama, but I don’t feel I’m striking a balance, either.
So yeah, I wish I knew.
Ooooh discord makes a lot of sense. It’s just the modern version of chat rooms which is where people were hooking up long before tinder was a thing and “a/s/l?” was one of the most common greetings between people just meeting for the first time.
The worst part is I mostly agree with OP but he comes across like an absolute douche.
That’s probably because OP is posting a popular opinion in an unpopular way.
Twist: OP owns a Tesla.
This is just his way of coping with the self-hate.
More likely OP is in fact, an absolute douche.
I don’t see how that conflicts with what I said.
It’s as if OP posted two unpopular opinions.
I’ve driven probably close to a hundred different Teslas and nearly every electric car currently on the market over my career working with cars, and I completely agree with this take even when you remove Elongated Muskrat and the semi-functional, utterly misrepresented Autopilot entirely from the equation. Sure, a Tesla (in proper working order) feels really good to drive, but practically every other electric car on the market (outliers being the Leaf and the Bolt) are working as hard as they can to capture that same experience and most are doing a really good job if not exceeding that standard. The only differences are that most other manufacturers have what I have to assume is a massively more robust design and engineering team, better quality control, and generally decades upon decades more experience in designing cars in general, and not taking advantage of that as a buyer is a pretty dumb move, especially when you start researching the myriad issues with Teslas. Sure, Tesla may have kickstarted the electric car market, but with all the current, similarly priced options on the market, buying a Tesla is purely for the status-symbol optics or because you actually buy into Elon’s BS, which is its own can of worms.
Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future,
Sooo…100% of future transportation should be done by train or bus? Gonna build an express line out to grannie’s house in the woods of rural upstate LargePlace? Maybe with a few local stops at some hiking trailheads? Can’t forget to add a direct line from there to the closest grocery store two towns away, or maybe granny can just hop on the train to CenterTown and take the connecting bus over to Nowhere’sVille, and grab another train from there. God forbid she wants to visit Aunt Sue in Isolated Harbour. Or maybe we should just seize both their properties and relocate them to Dense Village, which was specifically designed to be public-transit friendly.
Yeah trains are awesome, and we should utilize them more (especially in the US). But public transit is not the solution to all long-distance travel. So why flat-out reject a theoretical improvement, on the basis that it’s not a literally perfect solution?
Or maybe we should just seize both their properties and relocate them to Dense Village, which was specifically designed to be public-transit friendly
unironically this. Humans are a blight upon the natural world they inhabit but refuse to cooperate with, and the people doing their best to avoid living nearby other humans are a major cause of that. Everyone wants a piece of that pie, and the cost is to keep deforestation and making the land unlivable so that we can have our cars and charging stations and powerplants to supply the charging stations and grocery stores and water treatment and…
If you want to do whatever you want to do regardless of consequences, stop getting mad at the people saying “maybe we shouldn’t cover every square inch of land with asphalt and concrete” and start asking yourself why you’re so addicted to cars you take offense at the mere idea of asking granny to live somewhere within reach of a carless society
Humans are a blight upon the natural world they inhabit
If you’re so insistent on humans living in an environment counter to their own evolutionary instincts in favor of squeezing every drop of sustainability possible out of the maximum number of human lives (literally forcing humans to live in artificially dense population centers), why are you on the internet? You’re wasting electricity that was either derived from fossil fuels or generated using renewable technologies reliant on rare minerals obtained through strip mining. Not to mention the plastics and metals that went into making the computer/phone you’re using.
Still wearing clothes? Think of the water being wasted on manufacturing that! What about the resources devoted to growing the plant fibers, raising the livestock, or weaving the plastic fibers? The land that was destroyed and all the native life that was culled to create the farmlands? We should all be forcibly relocated to temperate regions and forced to live in dense nudist colonies.
Do you exercise? You know how many calories and how much oxygen you waste by doing that? Human physical exertion should be limited to only the bare minimum required to sustain the minimally healthy body weight. You know how much food we’d save if we banned all sports?
Don’t get me started on the arts. Brain power costs calories too! What a waste. All human creative resources should be pooled together to create the most efficient base of entertainment media possible that enables a livable experience. No more unique languages, everyone will be forced to learn Chinese Mandarin or Spanish, so we can eliminate waste on similar media across languages.
Obviously MASSIVE /S
Now I don’t want you to misunderstand, I’m very pro-renewables, rather pro-regulation, and even a bit pro-social-engineering. But literally seizing property and assigning concentrated living quarters to people who’ve owned their homes for generations is some seriously dystopian shit.
I’m a bike driver and Teslas wanna hit me left and square and I can’t hear those removed. I get it the gas cars are probably gonna go extinct within 180 years, but telsas suck on build quality and those removed are expensive to do any repairs, where is my RIGHT TO REPAIR!!!
Ummmm, if you are in the US, you don’t have a damn clue what you speak of. Go do a roadtrip on non-teslas. Can it be done? Sure? But expect broken CCS1 stations all along the way. Expect that you will have to wait forever to charge. If you are replacing your ICE vehicle and need to travel outside of your local area, Tesla has been the only game in town. End of story.
Why do you think every major car company with significant electric vehicle sales is jumping to the Tesla connector? It is because the Tesla supercharger network is so much better than everything else.
Tesla isn’t just their cars, it is their ecosystem. Tesla invested in a massive charging network, VW is next closest but CCS1 legit sucks. CCS2 would have been fine but the US in their infinite wisdom jumped on CCS1.
Now that companies are jumping on the tesla connector, I actually think we will see some real competition in short order which is good for everyone.
I’ve had a model 3 for 5 years and of the more than 10 I’ve had in my old age, it is by far the best, safest, most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I based my purchase on the vehicle, not the fucking CEO you nimrod. I will buy another in the future.
I hate Trump. Does that mean I should have stopped buying anything American for 4 years?
“Fuck you for trying to buy a car that you might enjoy, now get back to the shitty car companies who have a monopoly on the automotive business.”
Like seriously, Hate Elon all you want, but no we haven’t known “for years” and you claims on “safety items” seems dubious at best. But more importantly people wanted a specific car. If you buy it specifically because of Elon, ok, but most people just want the best car, and pretending the automotive industry isn’t filled with the absolute worst of humanity (Far worse than Elon, just not public facing enough)… like you’re kidding yourself bud.
If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.
Here’s my hot take, I really don’t give a shit what you think, and I’m saying this as a non-Tesla owner. It’s not about you being poor, or any other salty, you’re a pure asshole (let me guess BMW driver). You belittle others who “opinions don’t matter” but I’m really struggling why does anyone care what you think at that rate?
And no this being “Unpopular” isn’t good enough this is just a shitty argument. This is OP just being argumentative and insulting.
Hell the “Elaine” joke should offend those who propose to care about gendered insults, but I suppose that will be accepted because “Bad man deserved it” or something. Do the same to Elliot Page, and you’d be crucified though.
how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now?
While I agree with the basic premise of your argument, this isn’t the knock you think it is. The majority of passenger cars won’t be on the road in 10 years, let alone 20. Between poorly designed cheap econo-cars, people who want the latest new thing, and people who abuse their car (insanely long commutes, deferring maintenance, etc), they just don’t last that long on average. I rarely see a 2013 model or earlier let alone a 2003 or eariler.
The average age of registered cars is 12 years. And it keeps rising.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a43903366/average-car-age-12-years/
Me and my wife both have cars over 14 years old with 200k miles and they’re just fine.
I’m just over here sittin’ in my lil 2006 civic hybrid, eatin’ popcorn and celebrating 200k+ miles without so much as a loose screw.
