YouTube is cracking down on consumers’ favorite loophole - Adblockers::undefined

  • HexesofVexes
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    22 years ago

    It has been a long time coming - might be we’re in for another dark age of the net at the current pace of things.

    A way around will be found, it always is, until then consider archiving the things you enjoy to pass the time while we wait.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      This thread is full of fixes, and i havw another one that im not seeing anyone mention so its not lost yet!

      • HexesofVexes
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        12 years ago

        I’m noting down fixes as I find them, and so far they are effective. However, our fixes face the same dillema as their changes - what one person can contrive another can work around.

        We have the advantage of numbers, so we generate a wider range of work arounds, but our opponent can also see those work arounds (we share them freely) and so has an easier time countering them, i.e. they are faster at reversing each individual fix.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        None of the fixes work or atleast don’t work for long. I’ve tried everything. Moving to a different front end etc. don’t really count as a fix to me because then you’ll also lose your video recommendations.

  • Never_Sm1le
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    2 years ago

    Anyone like me who haven’t even seen this ad block warning?

    • @[email protected]
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      92 years ago

      Still nothing. Firefox with ublock origin and ghostery running in parallel.

      On my phone I’m using newpipe, on my tv smart tube next, so those are clean by default.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        It’s been hit-or-miss for me (Firefox w/ uBlock). It seems like Google’s pushing updates at irregular intervals. Clearing the uBlock cache and forcing an update usually does the trick for me, though. I’m guessing they’ll burn the volunteers out eventually, though.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          Clearing the catche and forcing an update seems to work but I’m not sure it actually does anything. I think they’re just slowly ramping up the frequency of that pop up. For me atleast it has just been getting worse and worse despite all my efforts.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            Yeah, updating it only does something if the uBlock team pushed an update that addresses Google’s recent push. I’ve been lucky so far where I’ve only ever had to update after they released an update, but you can get unlucky and have to wait for an update.

    • @[email protected]
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      2 years ago

      I started seeing it on my work computer that’s vpn’ed into another part of the country, while logged into my work Gmail (which has no real history).

      I’m not seeing it on my personal computer, which is logged into my personal Gmail.

      Both are using ublock.

      I think the rollout is very selective.

    • Draconic NEO
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      2 years ago

      I haven’t but I can make it appear by turning on the Block ads feature in YouTube Enhancer (so no one can tell me it’s “slow rollout”). So far Filterlist devs are doing a great job at blocking them, just like they always have on every website that is commonly used and isn’t a malware or scam site (not great examples of Anti-adblock sucess since they’re usually added to malware filters once detected).

  • @[email protected]
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    222 years ago

    havent seen this popup on Youtube. currently using librewolf with ublock origin. maybe i’m not logged in.

  • @[email protected]
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    332 years ago

    I feel like i would hate ad less if they let the creator know when and ad was comming. It would be kind of like TV was; “and I’ll tell you this after the break”. Because those midrolls usually just break a sentence in half!

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Well seeing how little tv people watch now I doubt it would be a success. I can’t and will not put up with midroll ads (why I think tv is not seen as much as the past).

      It is odd that youtube managed to regress to a state worse then a more or less dead media, but the line has been drawn.

      • @[email protected]
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        142 years ago

        Social media sites live or die on their contributors & users. If they make it too obnoxious even for established people to use the site, they’re going to look for alternatives.

        Then the content will start to leave, and the users will follow, and then you’re like, “Sorry, I’ve never heard of Digg”.

      • @[email protected]
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        292 years ago

        Users who don’t directly pay for a social service where user content and interaction is the business are still valuable. They share videos around, they comment, they contribute to it being the place where everything is happening. There’s a reason all these tech platform companies spent so long in the honeymoon phase of monopolization. Without the network effect of people on their platform, they have nothing.

        They still need a way to overall make profit from their users, but they aren’t losing nothing by losing people who adblock.

  • @[email protected]
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    282 years ago

    So far, I can dismiss the popup in Firefox and keep watching, but I dread the day that this doesn’t work anymore.

  • @[email protected]
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    482 years ago

    As far as I can tell, they aren’t doing a very good job. I’ve seen the notice that an ad blocker is not allowed, and even without upgrading the ad blocker I use I can still just click the close button on the notice and it goes away and I can continue to watch uninterrupted.

    If Google does figure out how to prevent people from using ad blockers on YouTube, I think it will help me break my honestly unhealthy habit and reduce the amount I watch, or perhaps even quit entirely, since there are far more ads on YouTube than there were in the past - especially if you also include sponsor ads that are embedded in videos.

    • @[email protected]
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      152 years ago

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they are using the information recorded from people who click the close button to better train their algorithm for detecting adblockers.

    • BombOmOm
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      192 years ago

      I have been enjoying Nebula. If Google manages to kill ad blockers, I will probably just go live over there.

  • Janet
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    2 years ago

    update your rules, made the popup go away on my ubloick origin <3

    addendum: a how to:

    • left click ublock origin
    • click the three interlocking cogs
    • select the filter lists tab at the top
    • click purge all caches
    • click update now
    • refresh your youtube tab you just encoutered the popup in and press f5 or refresh the site otherwise

    before i had the popup on each video, after no more.

      • Janet
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        12 years ago

        maybe talk to the author of ublock origin instead, i just commented on how i fixed it on my machines which all sit in europe :D

        idk what crazy gunk google-australia is up to that makes it not work for you

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Thanks for letting me know it should work. I decided to go through the process of disabling plugins on Firefox and YouTube Enhancer was the culprit. Do you know how I can get YouTube Enhancer back?

  • Star
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    92 years ago

    Ads are like door-to-door salesman. Obnoxious. Let me enjoy the content without the sales pressure. I don’t want to buy your stuff.

  • @[email protected]
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    232 years ago

    These ad block users should be considered the cost of doing business and they should be careful with targeting them.

    This kind of thing springs users into action to either find or use work arounds or create a alternative platform.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      No one can create an alternative platform. Youtube costs far far, far too much to run. This is why everyone failed. Google subsidised it for what, 15 years? Before it got any level of profitability and even then, nof really. Google derives other value from it, like feeding data into their ad profiles, but no one else needs that.

      It’s also clear that workarounds will stop soon as Google has installed Web drm directly into chrome

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        Peertube already exists and it’s better because a creator can host their own content without having to host everybody else’s content and therefore keep the price manageable. If a creator absolutely blows up mega huge then people watching the same video at the same time will be sharing the video with peers and load balance

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        People are already leaving chrome just for that reason. Google underestimates just how fast people will bail on a platform that goes off the rails.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        You’d be surprised how things can change, and quickly. It’s not going to be a overnight win for another platform. It’s going to have to start from the ground up, in probably a decentralized way, but it can happen.

  • @[email protected]
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    2 years ago

    I can really understand YT wanting to push ads because I know how expensive their servers are and all that, but I just can’t get over how many ads there are. Two ads before the video starts is already pushing it, and having ads in the middle (which can be many times depending on the video) is far too much. If they crack down on adblockers I’ll likely use alternative frontends like piped. No way I’m watching 6+ ads in one sitting.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      The problem is that there’s no competition. There’s no real YouTube alternative that content creators can post to.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        And the reality is there never will be anything that can meaningfully compete. Not anymore. Youtube has inertia. It’s not just that content creators get part of the advertising or that Youtube functionally advertises their channels based on related content algorithms. It’s also that youtube has over a decade of historical material. It’s the largest collection of video content in the history of the planet. Ever. By far. The age of “people are going to ditch your service for a competitor’s” is long gone. We are squarely in the age of the solid internet, which is ruled by a handful of very large, very powerful corporations, who do not really have to worry about “new competition,” because the scale of their operations is so vast, so well established as a part of the culture, and so astronomically expensive to maintain that nothing new could ever hope to compete.

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        That’s because video hosting platforms aren’t profitable. Anyone that’s trying to do what youtube is doing will either have shortcomings or go bankrupt.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          Does some of the payouts need normalising? Some of the bigger content creators make absolutely bank for hardly doing anything with little overheads.

          • @[email protected]
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            112 years ago

            Most of people’s earnings on YT are thanks to sponsors, not actually Youtube’s own ads. Youtube’s ad partnership has gotten really bad, the payments are reportedly not good at all while it’s really easy to get demonetized.

            Pretty much every major YT channel makes sponsored segments now or have a patreon, I’m pretty sure YT’s ads are just to try generating profit.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Holy crap. I had no idea YouTube was that bad. I guess my ad blockers work better than I thought.

      It’s going to be a never-ending cat-and-mouse game from here, I guess. And then eventually Google will make Chrome required with their trusted platform bs.

    • @[email protected]
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      352 years ago

      I think when they were trying to push the YouTube Red streaming shows there were a few times where they put in full episodes of shows as pre-roll ads. They were skippable but an hour long TV show as a pre-roll is just obnoxious.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        Lawyers and copyright issues-- the legal system, they are probably always bombarded from all sides by the legal industry and content creators on copy right issues.

    • @[email protected]
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      2 years ago

      I’m in the same camp. I was generally fine when it was an occasional skippable pre-roll ad before some videos. But the last time I watched a video without a blocker, there were two unskippable ads at the start plus two more each at the 7 and 14 minute mark of a 20 minute video.

      This hour has 22 minutes indeed.