Sounds like a solid campaign to me.
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Make sure to show him your love by not voting for him on election day then, just like he told you!
I wonder if he was just doing the Costco greeting from Idiocracy
Why tho?
Asking your supporters to engage in voter intimidation for the next election when you’ve been charged, and will be tried shortly, for leading an insurrection after the last election seems like a great game plan. /s
I can’t imagine being this guys lawyer. You must either be eating a handful of Tums every night, or your just as loony as him and actually don’t see how everything he says and does it toxic to himself and everyone in his orbit.
His lawyers are just there to drag it out, they plan on using mob violence to settle things when time runs out if he hasn’t been elected.
There are two things his lawyers are going to bank on: that toxic and illegal are very different things and that their real goal is to drag things out in hopes of a second term for Trump.
their real goal is to drag things out in hopes of a second term for Trump.
… their real goal is to drag things out because they get paid by the hour.
It’s a convenient scenario where the best strategy for the client is also the highest billing strategy.
Hopefully, for their sakes, they get paid up front. If they work and then bill Trump for their hours worked, then they might not get paid at all.
Maybe the ones that aren’t co-defendants with him … yet. Although helping him win a 2nd term gets them what? If he gets his 2nd term, and the GOP gladly allow him to assume his dream of being dictator:
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- he will have just as much chance of paying them (probably less than 1%).
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- he would also have no need for the law/lawyers/judges. I think anyone that could challenge him would be in the first wave of the “purge” .
It seems that his remaining lawyers are grifters rather than true believers…
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“So, we have to be careful. You got to get out there and watch those voters,” Trump said, adding, “You don’t have to vote, don’t worry about voting. The voting, we got plenty of votes.”
He’s saying that he’s going to win by force. And he probably will. It’s over.
It isn’t over until it’s over. If I have to face armed gunmen to vote I will. People in other countries are brave enough to do it, I can be too.
They’ve been doubling down on voter suppression and various other legislative bullshit.
People are going to die at the polls.
Yeah, I’m a bit concerned about that myself. I live in a red state, but a blue city that is 43% black. They have arcane voting laws that force you to stand in line for hours. I can definitely imagine a scenario where long voting lines in the city are attacked by white nationalist gunmen, and all the law-abiding unarmed voters are defenseless. This won’t stop me from voting or having my long gun in the truck, but it is something I’ve been concerned about.
Keep your eyes peeled for cars targeting the line. That’s a popular method.
Very true. There are many vectors an attack could come from.
What is over exactly?
Why do you say “he probably will” as if it was a done deal?
Are you a trump shill?
@spaceghoti hit the high points. The presumptive nominee for President of the United States for one of two major parties is openly fascist, with exactly zero consequences. He has a lot of people on his side, many of whom are already in positions of power in government, in all three branches, and in the press.
There have been plenty of opportunities for consequences to be laid upon these people who are still working to overthrow the foundations of democracy. None have been laid. None. I have zero faith in the ability of a democratic government to be able to put down this fascism.
Are you a trump shill?
You are free to browse my comment history to make your own judgment on that. Or go fuck yourself, your choice.
“Go fuck yourself”
Ok, I deserve that for insulting you.
But moving on, I disagree with you. If he couldn’t overturn the elections while being president, he won’t be able to do shit now.
You forgot the “or … your choice” part.
We will disagree until at least powerful fascists see real consequences. This very post is about Trump telling his followers to go strongarm polling places, voters, and election workers. And they will. They’ve already made life hell for some election workers. They’ve already been threatening House members over the Speaker votes.
It’s getting worse, not better. It will continue to get worse. A lot worse. More people will die, and as yet, the people who are fomenting terrorism with their speech are not being held accountable at all.
I disagree with you. It’s not getting worse. The peak was Jan 6.
And a lot of supporters have realized that Trump abandoned the Jan 6 constitutional traitors.
You’re a fucking fool if you think the peak was Jan 6. Are you familiar with the Beer Hall Putsch?
No. Enlighten me without resorting to name calling, then.
Edit: it’s a nazi era event. You win Godwin’s Award of the day.
There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia.
- Kurt Vonnegut, The Sirens of Titan
Let’s not throw in the towel, as dire as things look. It’s not over yet. Organize.
Good plays by rules, evil doesn’t. Good only wins by having overwhelming numbers. Just a majority won’t do it.
It’s sort of the strength of rules which is the advantage of good, though. The advantage of evil, short term gains, is great. In the short term. The thing about fascists is that they really actually can’t make the trains run on time, or sustain any level of state for any extended period of time, because they’re incapable of actual coalition building without self-sabotage. It’s why they keep having to move to beating on the most extremely marginalized in society. After trans people, I have no idea what the hell they’ll scapegoat, because they’re already scraping at the bottom of the barrel there. It was incredibly unpopular to overturn abortion, it will be the same with pretty much any other healthcare, or really anything that’s actually core to what they want to do once they get power. None of this is to say that they shouldn’t be feared, but we didn’t stay in the great depression, and we didn’t stay in the company towns, you know? People faced with nothing left to lose have every reason to fight establishment power, and fascists and fascism does nothing if not create people with nothing left to lose.
They’re saying democracy in the US is over. The slow walk of prosecutions against the Jan. 6th insurgents, particularly its organizers, has given the fascists the confidence to do it again at a national level. We’ll either have to fight back with equal violence, flee, or submit to their dictatorship.
The slow walk of prosecutions against the Jan. 6th insurgents
A sane legal system takes time. While I agree the organizers have mostly gotten off scott-free, it’s because they know how to keep themselves in the grey area even knowing full-well how the uneducated, violent people will react to their messages. The rubes have gotten hard time and I feel potential rubes have taken some notice. They’ll still play the victim all day, but they seem less hesitant to join calls to action.
they seem less hesitant to join calls to action.
I’m hoping you mean “more hesitant”.
It didn’t help that America’s top cop (AG Merrick Garland) deliberately held back on the investigations. It’s not just my opinion. Multiple observers came to the same conclusion.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Merrick+garland+slow+walk+January+6+investigations
I can’t believe how many people are trying to paper over that by strawmanning “you wanted Garland to indict immediately?”
No, i wanted him not to BLOCK ALL INVESTIGATIONS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. But insiders gonna inside, Garland wants those country club memberships and speaking engagements.
… INCESTIGATIONS …
Stepbrother, no …
Ah, the nicest way to point out I’m an idiot. 😄
Fixed.
Thanks.
And if the fuckers hadn’t obstructed in the first place, Garland would be a Supreme Court Justice, and someone else would be AG.
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just a bunch of stupid fucking trolls, aren’t you… idiot children…
The PCM Nazis made their way to the fediverse.
RemindMe - 13 months. :)
I’m not going to say Trump has NO path to victory, he does, but it won’t be a landslide. There are also a growing number of paths that would take him out of the race before the election even happens.
Edit Pretending Trump has no path is partly how he won in 2016. No vote can be taken for granted.
Oh do tell us more.
Why are we enabling and feeding trolls?
When I looked at this, there were 132 downvotes, why was it even still visible?
Being unpopular doesn’t go against the rules.
Apparently, neither does posting comments intended to provoke angry or indignant responses.
I feel like there’s a word for that.
This isn’t reddit, where the interface hides comments with too many downvotes.
Bruh, even 2016 wasn’t a fucking landslide - he outright lost the popular vote, only getting in thanks to the electoral college.
Imagine being such a sycophantic cuck that you are willing to publicly argue that some fuck, who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire on the side of the road, is going to win in a landslide after already losing the popular vote twice.
Especially on a post where that same dumbshit just told the rest of your cult members not to vote, and you all hang on his every word like it’s water in the fucking desert. I’d say this was a joke, but there ain’t nothing funny about it.
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I’m sure you thought whatever that is supposed to mean was very clever.
It’s really funny. All those power phrases and one-upmanship games played by Trumpetts are like people who roll coal or drive loud muscle cars - people waving around their tiny-dick-insecurity energy for everyone to see, somehow convinced they’re hiding anything.
Or all those conservatives obsessed with which consenting adult another consenting adult is sleeping with. Though there I’m pretty sure it’s just repressed jealousy because I can’t imagine giving that much of a fuck about an issue that I wasn’t deeply personally invested in.
You’re in a cult, get educated, snap out of it
Nah, they’re just a downvote troll. Look at their history. Account created yesterday and already at -522 comment karma. This is why reddit ended up capping downvotes at -100 because idiots like that person used to love to make a game out of seeing who could get the most downvotes.
Never really looked at it from that angle, almost seems a decent argument for removing visible downvotes all together. Should I not be as pissed at YT as I think I should be?
Instead, hiding the downvotes makes troll comments look reasonable and even popular as they brigade a community to upvote their narrative. The average user has no way to combat or discourage it.
They said that in 2020, too. It was bullshit then, and it’s bullshit now.
Ya know… This is actually super wild for him to say. lol
Right but it’s consistent. He’s going to keep pushing the election lie until he rallies another coup.
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Biden can barely read from teleprompter.
Even if I granted your premise here (and I don’t), Trump
and
. He needs to be in a hospital, not in the Oval Office. (Preferably a prison hospital.)
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He IS a senile alternative
Probably the more senile alternative, though our political class is staying in power way too long.
Because he’s is funny, I’d vote trump.
Biden can barely read from teleprompter.
My dude, have you heard Trump speak lately? The thinks he ran against Obama in 2016, that Obama is Joe Biden’s boss, that Jeb Bush got us into Iraq, and that World War 2 hasn’t happened yet. My point is, if you’re going to try and use the “Biden is senile” talking point, every single criticism also applies to Trump. Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden, which would make him exactly as old as Biden was when he started his first term. Not exactly the picture of youth or virility.
Look - election system is really lame in US, you gotta vote for 2 oligarchic parties that dont care about you and force candidates down our throats. The choices given are just unhealthy - but us system is what created these choice.
A wise man once told me “Never let perfect be the enemy of good.”. I understand the apathy of never feeling like you are represented by the leaders you vote for, but the perfect candidate will probably never come around in your lifetime and you will always have to settle for what you’ve been dealt. If you sit down and evaluate the candidates rationally, the choice is obvious. There’s an absolute mountain of achievements Biden has raked in during his first term. Trump, not so much. Plus the whole attempted coup thing should make anybody think twice about giving Trump a second term, full stop.
Our best hope is that Biden dies of old age before electiins so we can have a new candidate
Who would you vote for, if you had your choice of candidates? Because I can tell you that if your answer isn’t “Kamala Harris”, you’re going to be suuuuper disappointed if Biden does actually die in office.
you need to get out of your media bubble, but hey the most pro-worker/pro-Union president in American history “can barely read from (a) teleprompter” vs. the attempt to overthrow the nation is funny guy
The irony of a horse complaining about having of two possible riders, the one that is weaker, is clearly lost on a lot of people. If Biden was as weak as you said, wouldn’t that be a good thing for @buzz as Biden would also be less capeable of opressing @buzz? If the (according to him) more virile Trump was elected, he would have a more virile guy with his boot on his neck.
ya, but the other one is funny when he enacts his dictatorship
Most people don’t want less oppression, they just want someone who will oppress the people they don’t like instead of them. In fact, I think given the choices A) I get oppressed 2x but people I don’t like get oppressed 3x where x is my current oppression, and B) everyone gets oppressed less, most people would choose A.
That’s playing to lose, we people got to be rational and play to win. Just pursue our common interests. Everybody is advocating for themselves but regular people.
It’s not even that he can’t read. How much of that is his speech impediment?
You’re willing to vote for the fascist candidate because he’s funny? Even if Biden is senile, at this point, I’d vote for a dead possum over Trump simply because the dead possum wouldn’t try to overthrow the country.
assuming they’re not a troll, i wouldn’t be surprised that people would vote for trump because it gives them a chuckle to hurt other people because remember “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” President Lyndon B. Johnson
Best hope is that both of them die before the elections, all the traitors in the government who supported Trump’s bold-faced coup get put up against the wall, and we implement ranked-choice voting. None of that is going to happen, so the best we can hope for is putting trump’s ass in a orange jumpsuit made for someone who is actually 6’9 and 215lbs before the election.
Coveffe hambargee… I know, woman camera tv… that is the idiot you are going to vote but you claim that Biden couldn’t read… ohhh the irony.
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So, no good argument there then. Good to see that you’d gladly vote for a traitor.
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In jail
Remember, when you’re feeling down and like nothing really matters, there’s always a way out.
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Trump has much bigger problems reading, and even greater problems with understanding what he read.
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It’s so he can start bitching more and more after he loses again and his cult can try to overthrow the government again.
He wants to break the system, dumbasses.
He’s leading the polls?
Only in certain polls, and as we have seen time and again, the polls don’t mean shit. Bernie was leading in the polls this far out from the election in 2019. “Somehow” he isn’t president.
Hell, Hillary was leading in the polls on, and after, election day 2016. She won the general election…
Only in certain polls,
… specifically the majority of polls published in the last week: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
That being 8/13 at the time of writing with Biden only leading in one.
The electoral college needs to be abolished.
Agreed. If the Superbowl was “won” by the losing team 17% of the time people would riot.
“The polls”
If I go outside and ask the three young kids riding their bikes what their favorite ice cream is, I’ve joust conducted a poll.
Apropos to this specific scenario, if I go to a chocolate lovers convention and ask their favorite ice cream flavor, guess which flavor might leaf the way. Now what is while along the question, I was wearing a t-shirt that says “vote for chocolate and I’ll give you $20 bucks”.
“Chocolate is leading in the polls, okay… You know it, I know it.”
What point are you trying to make?
Are you implying that only live and die Trump voters are being polled?
I mean, to a degree, polling in general is still conducted with a very antiquated structure that tends to bring in responses predominately from the underemployed, undereducated and elderly (so huge cross section of enthusiastic trump voters over represented in those groups). But my specific point here was that he’s ambiguously citing “polls” and not a specific poll - They aren’t all created equal and in fact, you can bet the ones that trump would proudly reference are typically biased as fuck in how they ask questions and analyze results.
He is prove the system is already broken. When in a democracy, voters who can read and write, who are impoverished and on avg can’t even afford a $500 emergency vote for a billionaire, I’d say that is a failure of the system.
edit: I am not saying billionaires are worse than anybody else, I am just saying their interests probably don’t have a lot of overlap with the avg voter.
It’s ok, I’ll say it, billionaires are greedy fucks killing our society, individuals who should not exist in a functional society.
Billionaires are worse than everyone else. Greed on their scale is killing the planet and people.
Imagine waking up with billions of dollars. What would you do with it? If you say keep it and try o take more from the populous then you are an enemy of the populous. They have brain damage from greed. They are worse than everyone else.
I would spend all but 1 billion on just buying wetlands and the legal resources to make sure they never get touched. Doing good the laziest way possible.
With the remaining billion I will start my own space program.
No one becomes a billionaire through ethical means. You have to grind people down to make that kind of money.
To prove it, just how rich can someone get without making any unethical choices?
They are objectively worse - it’s immoral for a billionaire to exist (meaning to amass that amount of money, not to physically exist). You can’t get to that point without knowingly/actively hurting others. They are worse people, period… and you don’t have to cover your bases and backpedal on this point. Starts to sound line the famous “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” quote.
Oh don’t apologize! Let me show you something:
- 10,000 seconds = 2.8 hours
- 100,000 seconds = 27.8 hours
- 1,000,000 seconds = 11.6 days
- 10,000,000 seconds = 115.7 days
- 1,000,000,000 seconds = 31.7 YEARS
I haven’t even lived for a billion seconds yet and I was born in 94! A billion is a truly obscene high quantity. I don’t think there’s a moral way to gain that much wealth, and if there is, it’s an exceptionally rare possibility.
I am 1,735,668,000 seconds old, and so I have seen some shit. Donald Trump is just an unseemly hiccup in an insignificant span of time. There were ghastly horrors before him and there will be ghastly horrors after him. These nuisances seem important because this is your now, you’ll realize how little they meant when this is your then. As in, it seemed so important then, while you look back at the Land of Then from the clear hilltops of After.
I hope so. I’d rather this all be something my kids or grandkids ask me about.
That’s why the Electoral College exists
If people are voting for Trump then they will put their votes towards a better alternative
Ironically Hillary Clinton had 3 million more votes than Trump. Without electoral college it would have been a Hillary Presidency.
Yes, it doesn’t work as intended but political parties weren’t intended either
I think it works as intended by those who put it in place.
A lot of things brought in were done so because they didn’t know how to exploit it
We’ve had 6 presidential elections in the 21st century. The Republican candidate won the popular vote one out of those 6 times. Yet we’ve had 3 Republican Presidential terms resulting from those elections.
Sounds like another coup attempt being foreshadowed by Trump
Yeah, though I wouldn’t be surprised if he legit didn’t really want to be president in the first place, but the opportunity to fleece more people was too great for him to pass up so he just ran with it and can’t stop now.
The grift is 100% there but I think he does want to be president again because he believes that that will absolve all crimes.
Not in Georgia!
He’ll just pardon himself.
He’ll pardon himself in Georgia, too, even though that’s totally not a thing, then double-dog-dare Georgia to do something about it.
It obviously has never been put to the test, but all the hypotheticals about the subject I’ve ever heard about conclude that what would most likely happen is that the verdict would still stand, but any kind of incarceration would be deferred or outright eliminated because the execution of his Presidential duties would take precedent.
He wouldn’t be able to pardon himself, but Trump would clearly spin the fact that he avoided punishment as “TOTAL EXONERATION”, which is often enough for his ego and to placate his base.
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I don’t think Trump realizes we’re all aware of what he’s capable of.
Im definitely not voting in this presidential election (Because I am Australian)
I think he thinks he’ll lose, and he thinks a big loss is actually less believable to his supporters than a close loss, so he’s trying to create a big loss, which will make more of his supporters Jan 6 2.0.
I’m not following that logic. If he tells everyone not to vote, and most comply meaning only a few vote, wouldn’t the majority of them who didn’t vote see the low results and understand that it would be the natural outcome? Where do they think votes come from if they don’t vote?
I imagine when they look at the lines of voters they categorize people into two bins: normal and not-normal. Trump is asking his supporters to do a Rorschach test but citizens are the ink blots and he’s specifically telling them to look for scary things. Their Conclusion: If you see lots of normal people and he loses the election, then it’s because of those voters that didn’t look normal were there to rig the system.
You’re assuming they think using logic. You’re wrong. They go by emotion, and you can’t use logic to reason with them.
Logic: “he lost by a lot, it’s wildly unlikely that it could be rigged by that much.”
Emotion: “he lost by a lot, that’s impossible, NOBODY I know voted for BRANDON, I love Trump so EVERYBODY loves Trump, IT WAS RIGGED!!1!”
Something, something, democrats, something, something, racist dog whistle, something, something, democrats, something, something, Hunter’s Biden laptop, something, something.
It’s not the people who vote that count, it’s the people who count the votes.
Like they proved in court dozens of times since 2020?
everytime tfg gets a headline a kitten dies
This actually concerns me a bit. Not that I believe Trump can actually coordinate anything, mind you.
But at the same time, Trump really didn’t lose the election by several million votes. He lost the election by a few thousand key votes in key swing states. Many of those states have passed dranconian laws, took over election boards, and put in rules that would allow them to just throw the election Trump’s way regardless of the actual vote count. It’s very possible that he’s simply banking on those to carry him through the day regardless of the actual vote totals. If Trump believes (or is led to believe) the fix is in in those key areas, telling ruby-red voters in ruby-red states to stay home is no big deal.
That would involve planning on his part and he has not demonstrated ability. He responds not plans.
I’m very concerned.
Diminishing faith in elections is one of the fourteen characteristics of Fascism.
Related Beau of the Fifth Column:
While I agree with the sentiment, Trump did lose by millions of votes. There was a 7.61 million vote differential. He also lost the popular vote to Hillary by 2.9 million votes.
Biden won 81,283,098 votes, or 51.3 percent of the votes cast. He is the first U.S. presidential candidate to have won more than 80 million votes. Trump won 74,222,958 votes, or 46.8 percent of the votes cast. More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.
Going back further, incumbency aside, there hasn’t been a Republican who has won the popular vote since GHW Bush in 1988…35 years ago
While I agree with the sentiment, Trump did lose by millions of votes. There was a 7.61 million vote differential. He also lost the popular vote to Hillary by 2.9 million votes.
Yeah, I know all of that. But about 5 million of that 7.61 million, for example, came from California. There was never a chance that California was going to Trump, so those 5 million extra votes were largely overkill votes that had no bearing on the overall election outcome. Those 5 million could have stayed home and it wouldn’t have changed the outcome a single bit. The same goes, to a much lesser degree, with states like New York and Massachusetts, which are about as blue as you can get.
The same holds true for Trump, by the way. Trump won several southern states by double digits, leading to himself getting millions of overkill votes in states that were never in danger for him. A few million people in those states could have stayed home and the outcome wouldn’t have changed a bit. But a few thousand more votes in a couple of key states could mean we’d be sitting in the midst of Trump’s 2nd term while Biden goes down as a footnote who ran his campaign from his basement.
It’s all about the crucial votes in key areas of swing states. Georgia is a prime example. A swing of just over 11,000 votes out of a pool of 5 million could have thrown the state to Trump. A 20,000 vote swing in Wisconsin could have turned Wisconsin red. Between the two of them alone, 31,000 votes could have sent two states and their 26 Electoral College votes to the GOP. The same could be said about half a dozen other states where Biden’s wins were razor thin.
The popular vote is great for bragging rights, but in reality has no actual bearing on the outcome of the election due to the existence of the Electoral College. It’s great for chest thumping, but winning by 7.6 million votes when 7 million of those votes came from heavily populated states that Biden was going to easily win anyway doesn’t really say much. When you’re talking about votes that actually have an impact on the results, Biden’s victory was much, much narrower.
Look at it this way: Do you really think Biden is going to waste his time running up the score in California, or is he going to spend his time in swing states to try to at least maintain if not expand upon the narrow wins he got last time? He’s going to spend his time in the swing states because running up the score in California by a few million votes will do exactly nothing for him, while ensuring he at least maintains the 11,000 votes he won by in Georgia will mean he doesn’t lose 16 EC votes right off the top.
That was a lot of words to say what you already said, and I corrected. He didn’t lose by a small margin, he lost by electoral votes. Saying he only won or lost by a few thousand votes is wildly inaccurate when it is electoral votes that matter
…i think bush the lesser won the popular vote for his second term: didn’t make him suck any less, but wars win elections, which is a terrible incentive for the next minority-victory president…
That’s what an incumbency is
Those numbers don’t matter though.
What they were saying, accurately, was that the election was decided by a few tens of thousands of voters delivering swing states with tight races.
Trump lost by a few million votes in 2016 too, but that’s not what mattered then either.
Those numbers do matter for clarity. Saying he didn’t lose by millions blurs the truth. Saying he lost by a few thousand votes is not at all accurate when electoral college votes are the only ones that matter, and adding “in a few swing states,” only fuels those stop the steal Maga idiots
Those numbers do matter for clarity.
They do not. They only matter in the context of a discussion of the election among those familiar with how the system works, where all parties specifically understand that the popular vote is a meaningless metric as it relates to electing a president.
Saying he didn’t lose by millions blurs the truth.
Again that’s just factually incorrect. By the same standards, you’d logically have to argue that Trump lost the 2016 election, which is obviously nonsense.
If anything, the opposite is true: using terms like “won” and “lost” based on the popular vote is what’s really blurring the truth.
It’s like talking about an American football game and who won and lost based on overall yards gained or time of possession instead of the final score.
Saying he lost by a few thousand votes is not at all accurate when electoral college votes are the only ones that matter
Interesting angle, considering this is the first possibly valid point you’ve made…but that it also completely contradicts the rest of your argument. You’ve been here arguing the popular vote matters then turn around and say the EC votes are the only ones that matter…bold strategy.
In concession, I’ll admit you’re right on this one and I stand corrected.
Trump lost by 74 votes.
Yeesh you really don’t know how to keep to a side. Thanks for the props, thanks for saying what I already said, thanks for rehashing what you already said, and thanks for not understanding the point and drawing this out. This whole exchange is unnecessary and has been a waste of my time
Londonderry*
Me after reading the headline: “Haha, that’s hilarious! Yes, Trump voters, don’t worry about voting!”
Me after reading the article: “Well, that was disturbing.”
Seems like he is calling for his supporters to swarm polling stations and scare away anyone who looks like a Democrat. He is counting on violence or the threat of it to give him a win.
I think it’s going to end up like how he discouraged mail in voting. The real crazies live in red areas, they are going to scare their own voters away.
I really hope you are right.
He’s calling for a coup. And not subtly.
