I’ve been wanting to move away from Dropbox for a long while, but I haven’t been able to find a suitable replacement. Dropbox has always been super convenient and has just worked for me.
I’ve tried Tresoit but the low link sharing limits (2gb) and 10gb limit for files is somewhat of a deal breaker for me. I’ve been interested in Proton Drive for a while, but until their mac app is ready it’s unusable for me.
I’ve also tried self-hosting a nextcloud instance (multiple times) but I’ve always just had too many issues with it. It’s been inconsistent in actually backing up files from my mac, I’ve had so many file conflicts, etc. I have a truenas scale server, so if there are other self-hosted methods I should try let me know.
Currently, I’m looking at filen and sync.com, but I’ve heard both have their issues so I’m curious to hear everyones thoughts on them as well.
Thanks!
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I’ve never heard of crypt.ee till today, but wow is it amazing for all my document editing needs. Thank you!
I run Dropbox, since they’re only in cloud storage they can’t really run around and sell data, if found out there would be no reason to stay for their customers. Unlike say Google and Microsoft.
I wouldn’t trust a billion dollar company to not sell my datam Just sayin
You run dropbox? Impressive.
Dropbox belongs to Google…
Nope.
I have started trialling mega. 20GB free.
So far so good.
One minor annoyance I have had is keepass .kdb files. You can’t just open from mega android, make changes and have it auto save back to the cloud. Have to save out, edit then share back in. There is a autosync app by a third party which I have not tried.
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On their roadmap I think I saw they were going to bring support for it? But yeah I wouldn’t trust that until I see it. It’d be annoying to transfer over all of my data from DB to filen if I were to go that route, but at the same time rclone already supports Proton Drive, but the mac app still isn’t here.
How do you like Filen so far? I tried it out with a few directories and it felt very snappy. Plus, the .fileignore feature is phenomenal and I wish more providers would do it!
I heard when filen was first launched there were some issues with their encryption and some file loss, do you happen to know if this has largely been fixed? Thanks!
Self hosted nextcloud works great for me. There have been a lot of improvements over the last few years, handling conflicts doesn’t feel as clunky and I don’t really run into as many unless I’m storing git repos in my NC directory.
I’m curious, are there any ways to just not backup directories in a .gitignore type of way? I started trying out filen and this single feature is just very very compelling for me
I haven’t used NC in a while but the improvements seem good at first glance!
Syncthing to my selfhosted proxmox server at home then rclone encrypted and unencrypted depending on content, to my cloud storage. Fully automtatic meanwhile.
Rclone syncs to various cloud services so the provider doesn’t matter from a technical point of view.
I use a Synology NAS which I can access from everywhere as long as I have internet connection.
Yeh this is probably the quickest, simplistic and most robust way. Not the cheapest but unless you have unraid ready and know exactly what to do you’d be hard pushed to find a better solution.
I use unraid, nextcloud, Immich, Tailscale and so on . It’s not set and forget.
Nextcloud with Hetzner your-storageshare. ~5€/m for 1TB is hard to beat and it runs so well. I still use encryption and a few plugins like on a selfhosted instance.
This is a great option, I have used it too in the past. Since, I have switched to iCloud when they implemented e2e encryption. Seems no one else here goes that route, trust issues maybe.
I do miss versioning with iCloud.
I have proton drive too, waiting on that osx client.
ICloud with e2e could be nice. But having a mix of Linux and Windows laptops in the household it is just not possible. There simply is no Linux client for it. And last time I checked the Windows client didn’t support e2e. So there goes that.
And to be completely honest I really do have trust issues with Apple (and Big Tech in general).
How do you deal with the encryption? How did you set that up? Or you encrypt on your pc and then send to hetzner?
I only use the encrypted storage built in natively in Nextcloud.
but only for local storage.
The e2ee was not very good the last time I checked. I should check out any new developments though.
I’ve heard a lot of issues (from a few old reddit threads though) in regards to NC Encryption, specifically with data loss and file integrity. I don’t think I’m comfortable going that route, but if they’ve made improvements I might as well check it out
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Hetzner EU only? If I’m in the U.S., wouldn’t that make file syncs rather slow?
I think they opened or are planning to open a US data center. Other than that they are in Germany and Norway at the moment.
I’m in Germany, too, but I synced to it while being in the US, in Spain, and in Indonesia on vacation and I never had any problems with delays. And even if it was slow it was the hotel wifi 100% of the time. But using it full time from across the ocean ymmw.
Looks like they did open a US data center, but the storage shares are still Germany & Norway.
I might still give it a shot, it’s not a large commitment so might be good to try.
google drive.
i pretty much sold my soul to google at this point
anyway they have my address, payment info, all of my photos since 2014, my preferences from YouTube, google maps data and since I’m using google location sharing and find my phone, they have access to my exact location at all times; and half of my payments go through google pay and I’m using android with my google account.I migrated all my cloud files to M-Discs because in the near future, even if I encrypt my files with PGP before sending them to the cloud, big tech will be able to break their encryption. I don’t trust any big tech.
Curious why M-disc specifically? Isn’t that storage media kind of expensive for the amount of storage space you get? Plus unless every disc is getting buried in a capsule, you would still have to baby it like any other optical disc even though its more durable.
I don’t use cloud storage anymore I migrated all my files to M-Disc
What is M-Disc?
Iirc theyre these expensive discs that are highly resistant to disc rot (or something along those lines) for at least 1000 years. Kinda gimmicky tbh since it still needs to be stored properly to achieve that claim and suffers from the same problems as any other optical disc (the equipment needed to read and write and still durability)
So you want to backup or do you want to file share/work together on documents?
For backup I use Spideroak for all our families computers. It did a solid job over the last four Linux laptops and MacBooks I used. I only backup the home directory and the external drive with my Photo Library.
For Cloud Storage I use OneDrive. I don’t have much to share, so this is normally enough.
I’d say like 65% backup, 35% share/collaboration. It’s why this simple decision has become unnecessarily complex for me haha. I want a balance of privacy, yet I want the ease of access and user-friendliness of Dropbox.
From this thread, I think ente is partly perfect for my needs. I’ve been trying out filen and it’s been quite good, but I might stick with Dropbox till the Proton mac app launches and see how it is.
Might end up just doing NC + storej, though. Many have said NC has improved significantly as of late so it might be worth a look at once more.
I just pay Google $99/yr. for 2TB of storage. I have my Google Drive mapped as G: and Windows libraries mapped to folders in the Google Drive.
Super simple and cheap. I still have local backups for fast restores, and Google for cloud.
What files from your Mac are you trying to sync to next cloud? If you have a Truenas already, why are you hosting files from your Mac instead of mapping a share directly from your Truenas into Nextcloud and working directly off of the source instead?
As for syncing photos from my phone to Nextcloud, I’ve had no issues over the past 3 years hosting it myself. I had one problem with a lot of conflicts where permissions on my truenas wouldn’t allow nextcloud to delete them, so I had a manual cleanup process last month but that’s the only problem I’ve had. I just switched to Truenas a few months ago from QNAP and am still learning the caveats of their very granular permissions but everything generally works about 99% of the time.
Wouldn’t mapping it directly to truenas be somewhat slow especially if I’m always on the go? My Truenas server is at at home while I dorm on campus, so I’m not sure if it would work out well. Plus, I’ve had a lot of issues with truenas + my hardware which led to me keeping this server mostly down over the last year or so. Everything seems stable and works fairly well now, but just airing on the side of caution.
Does NC photos have tagging? Auto-tagging is why I’ve always been with Google Photos tbh, an alternative would be nice though.
That said, my mac is mostly code, some emulation related stuff (thus the 10 gb limit of tresoit being annoying for me), and some documents/notes. My media is already self-hosted on jellyfin which works great atm, but I have it on my dropbox as well right now.
