Will we all be fucked or is there a Linus 2?

  • @[email protected]
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    277 months ago

    I’m training a code and language model to write Linux kernel code and provide snarky comments, of course all based on Linus’s extensive commit history.

    Our AI Überherr will be pleased.

  • Ashkan :Verfied:
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    28 months ago

    @luthis

    There will be so many forks trying to continue a Kernel based on linux and i think a few will succeeded! We may use arch kernel or debian kernel in the future.

  • @[email protected]
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    908 months ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor is a thing that any GOOD project or IT department considers. How many of your staff can you afford to lose if they all happen to be travelling in the same bus, on their way to eat at the same place for lunch when an asteroid inevitably punches through said bus and/or diner.

    ‘Hit by an asteroid’ is a little unrealistic. Sentenced to prison for 15 to Life has happened in the Open Source community at least once before. The project I linked to had a Bus Factor of about one. It’s now ‘old code using outdated APIs’ and is considered obsolete.

    I’ve personally seen legal and criminal issues for a single individual cripple IT departments before, meaning their bus factor was also way too low. I’ve been on trips that have been rudely interrupted by screaming executives when I came down out of the mountains into cell range because I was the only bus factor left on certain systems. Natural disaster, such as hurricanes, wildfires, and floods are very serious existential threats to even the largest of organizations.

    Since Linux seems to be a good project, I can’t imagine that the discussion hasn’t been had, in public or in private. Millions of individuals and dozens upon dozens of big corporations depend on Linux, Open source and otherwise. If the bus comes for core maintainers or project leaders we have at least SOME backup.

    • WFH
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      208 months ago

      I’ve been on trips that have been rudely interrupted by screaming executives when I came down out of the mountains into cell range because I was the only bus factor left on certain systems.

      Wow, incredible management skills, genius move to treat your one critical employee like a piece of shit.

      • @[email protected]
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        88 months ago

        Yeah, that was close to the end of that job. I didn’t want to be there, and that particular manager was really upset that they couldn’t just eliminate those servers. He wanted his folks trained on them, but then refused to actually let them spend any time training on them. I was a scapegoat and took the severance deal ASAP.

    • JohnEdwa
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      8 months ago

      “Known for: ReiserFS, murder” kinda makes it sound like the dude invented both.

      • Tippon
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        77 months ago

        Or was sentenced for both.

        ‘No your honour, that’s not what committing ReiserFS means’

    • Kuadhual
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      488 months ago

      We need to consider truck-kun factor, where the developer get isekai-ed.

      • @[email protected]
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        338 months ago

        “I’ll Become the Strongest Adventurer in the Other World with My Maximum Level Open Source Operating System Development Skills.”

          • @[email protected]
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            118 months ago

            “Brave Hero from Finland, you’ve been struck by a bus and are going to reincarnate into–”

            “No I wasn’t. That bus CHASED ME DOWN two alleys, over a fire hydrant, into, and out of a Starbucks. It did NOT hit me. You just summoned me here.”

            “Err… anyway, this world needs a hero to–”

            “Write hardware drivers? A kernel module? Some inline assembly?”

            "Err… the demon lord… er… "

            “DID YOU EVEN MAIL THE LIST? Hah… Okay. Does this world have logic gates of any kind? I need to get this knocked out as soon as possible. I’ve got the entirety of the bcachefs patchset to review before 6.7 is in release.”

              • @[email protected]
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                77 months ago

                Dr Stone but for computers/software dev…

                Linus teaches them all best practices and then takes a 2 week hiatus from kernel dev to write a tool that defeats the demon lord.

    • Turun
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      88 months ago

      when an asteroid inevitably punches through said bus and/or diner.

      Or, you know there is a crash? Lol

      I’ve never heard it with the asteroid explanation. But thousands of people die every year in car crashes. Most in single occupant vehicles, but a bus can be involved too.

  • @[email protected]
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    37 months ago

    Anyone good at insulting and ranting can make the cut. It should not be hard to train an AI on it.

  • @[email protected]
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    167 months ago

    Nothing. But I would love a microkernel approach like redoxOS. Monolithic kernel is such a bloat?

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶OP
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      57 months ago

      Can’t you compile your own kernel with exactly the things you want? Would be a fun project to do

      • @[email protected]
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        47 months ago

        True. Funny idea I should totally do this. This is how you learn Linux. Like a kernel for exactly your hardware specs!

        • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶OP
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          47 months ago

          I have doubts you would see any performance increases, and if you change your hardware you’ll be in for a tough time but it would be a fun learning experience!

          • @[email protected]
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            27 months ago

            Thats a question I have. I have two laptops, a shitty amd ryzen thinkpad t495 and a fancy soon-to-be-corebooted Clevo NV41MZ with i7-11** cpu. Pretty crazy performance difference although the chassis and keyboard suck. But if I get the keyboard I want to simply swap drives, as there is nothing fancy, this should just work right?

            • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶OP
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              27 months ago

              Um… I’m going to choose to phone a friend on this one…

              Oh, …I have no friends who would know.

              My instinct is you’re going to need to journalctl -b and see what modprobe and udev are up to.

            • Kogasa
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              Swapping CPU manufacturers entirely? I’d just start my kernel config fresh. Pull up the old one next to a new (default ) one and go down line by line. Odds are there are at most a few flags that would need to be changed, but it’s a good chance to reevaluate your previous decisions too.

        • @[email protected]
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          47 months ago

          This used to be the norm, not a weird thing that noone has thought of before. If you do this your kernel will be a lot smaller, boot faster, and be a bit more secure. Once you’re booted it won’t make any meaningful speed difference though.

          • Kogasa
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            27 months ago

            It makes a HUGE difference in compile time. Which only matters if you’re building your own kernel anyway. It’s a solution for its own problem.

            I think it’s a good learning experience though. There is genuinely a lot of stuff in there that you can easily, safely remove, and reading up on all the less obvious flags is fun.

          • downhomechunk [chicago]
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            27 months ago

            Yep. When you have an 800mb HD and 16mb of EDO RAM, you only load what you need. The boot speed was unreal at the time compared to windows.

  • @[email protected]
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    298 months ago

    When he dies, I expect his family will be sad for a while and bury him.

    If he retires, his family will be pretty happy for him.

    Other people will keep doing Linux stuff.

  • @[email protected]
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    1978 months ago

    GNU will spring their plan into motion for world domination, and send anyone who has said Linux and not GNU/Linux to GNUlag

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    1157 months ago

    A number of candidates will create their own forks and there will be a long Game of Thrones style war between different factions. After couple of weeks each distro will choose the fork they will make the default one and people will split into warring factions. After that we will enter a nuclear winter style period lasting couple of years during which 90% of post on Lemmy will be just shitposting the rival forks. After a decade or two of backstabbing, dirty politics and other drama new dictator will be selected and all will be back to normal.

  • Obinice
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    2578 months ago

    We’ve all agreed that when he dies it would be disrespectful to keep using Linux so we’ll pack it up and switch to Windows from them on.

  • @[email protected]
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    187 months ago

    There shouldn’t be another Linus. The model of a single maintainer holding so much importance is fundamentally flawed, especially for a project with the size and importance of Linux. Responsibilities and decision making should be distributed among stakeholders and volunteers. It will take time to rebuild around that sort of structure.

    I’ve also heard tell that the linux-kernel mailing list has become extremely toxic, especially to newcomers. A professor that I have a lot of respect for has stopped teaching his kernel drivers course because one of his students received death threats related to her involvement. If a change in the tenor doesn’t happen, less and less of the fresh blood that Linux needs will join.

  • @[email protected]
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    308 months ago

    Everyone is making jokes but the thought has occurred to me: Yes, we have an organisation in place that is ready to replace him. But, from what I understand, he IS the benevolent dictator, and he has used his power a few times to stop some changes that otherwise would be in the kernel right now. And I think that’s a good thing.