[Endless screaming]
What’s the demographics of the people who live on the South Korean border of the DMz?
Is it rich freaks, or is that where they shove poor and marginalized people?
Seoul is actually pretty close to the DMZ. Plenty of rich folks there. If shit really kicked off the city could be obliterated by artillery pretty quickly. Not sure why DPRK would need to do “Hamas style attacks” when they could just do that instead.
Maybe because there are nearly 10 million people in Seoul and the wholesale bombardment of them would result in massive civilian casualties that would rightfully be condemned as a crime against humanity?
Well, yeah. Point was more just that there is no need for insurgent/Guerilla tactics when you have a massive conventional force dug in within shooting distance of a bunch critical potential targets.
Sounds like South Korea needs to stop using the people of Seoul as human shields.
Yeah but when you imagine that the WPK is basically Korean Hamas, what does your boogeyman care for civilian casualties?
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I think hamas style is a placeholder for “justified counterattack against aggression” that makes it sound like a bad thing?
Close enough that the US bombed it a lot during the Korean war
This led me down a rabbit hole of seeing if there’s any strains of Islam in DPRK and sure enough, there is a Shia mosque on the grounds of the Iranian embassy that hosts Friday prayers, Eid celebrations, etc for anyone interested.
Located within the grounds of the Iranian embassy in Pyongyang, the Rahman Mosque was established in 1985, according to a sign posted on the outside of the building. Iran, a predominately Shia Muslim country, originally built the mosque at its North Korea embassy compound for staff-only use. But today, Muslims of all faiths can attend services at the Rahman Mosque, and the site is a key pillar of the Islamic community in Pyongyang
pretty neat
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okay
good so we’re on the same page that at best it’s commendable political pragmatism.
All AES have freedom of religion with party officials acting as regulators to ensure imperialism does not enter through religion.
- Read the Chinese Community Party Central Committee’s The Basic Viewpoint and Policy on the Religious Question during Our Country’s Socialist Period from 1982 (also called Document 19). In addition to banning feudal religious rights and foreign missions agencies, they also admit that making religion illegal does more harm than good and make plans for the future by creating regulatory bodies for each major religion. In doing so, they are allowing people to be religious within the confines of a communist society rather than capitalist imperialism. They also predict a consistent decrease in religiosity but, in the 40 years since it’s publication, religiosity has continued to increase in China.
- DPRK has a Buddhist Federation and Christian Federation to supervise all activities. They seem a bit laxer than CPC, perhaps due to Kim Il Sung’s Christian upbringing.
- The policies of banning cults has been successful in China, Falun Gong and the Moonies being the most popular ones stamped out.
- The building of communism is the priority. Religion serves to bolster that and gives a connection to non-communist communities as a way to continue to build an internationalist vision of communism.
If China and North Korea understand this, have had massive success in doing so (nevermind Cuba among others) and are succeeding in building communism in spite of fucking everything this world throws at them, I’d say it’s a good example to follow.
foreign missions agencies
lol this has lapsed
Xi has increased regulation recently to combat this, but yeah, it’s still a problem. Vatican still cries about not having any say over the Chinese Catholics which is very funny to me
Yes. I’m very aware. I’m guessing you haven’t seen other points where I’m fine with great degree of freedom of religion, indeed more than the vast majority of people on this site. You seem to be missing my point, which is that ML having to compromise through relations with Islamist theocratic states is a shame, in particular as the particular form of Shia Islam promoted by Iran is particularly nefarious, it being Islamist.
Global south liberation is more important than handwringing about specifics like this. When hands are finally off a region, they’ll be allowed to develop in their own way, and then the basis for a revolution will be even more possible. AES forming an anti-Occidental bloc to combat
is more important for our vision than insisting that these societies must now immediately conform to our ideas. Not to say queer lib, women’s lib, worker lib, etc is not important; but instead that by working against these countries we delay those things even more.Opposing Islamism more than Euro Dominance just makes you a nerd like Christopher Hitchens.
Know your enemy
It ain’t fuckin’ Muslims
Learn to read. It has literally nothing to due with them being Muslims. My criticism is that they are Islamists. If you are unable to make that distinction then there’s a problem. When I do militant activity (almost every day), I do actually encounter a issue due to Islamism, especially in relation to trying to organize in support of Palestine. So frankly if I had to guess Id say that you’re probably an ultraleftist yank masquerading as an ML who has never been involved in the construction of an actual Leninist party.
Hell, I guess I’ll make a real reply too. The struggle for national liberation comes first, which in the present context universally means the struggle against western domination. Islamists aren’t your enemy either except where they serve western interests, which Iran plainly does not. Whining about the DPRK allowing a mosque serves only western interests, like most criticisms of AES states coming from outside of those states
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cookedThe west is the foremost enemy of communism, globally. My stance has nothing to do with whether I think a political entity is good or bad, as you put it. My stance is that AES states know what they’re doing better than some bozo on the internet. Do you think the DPRK thinks Iran is its bestie?
You want to talk about doing militant action on the daily? You want to talk about sass? That’s rich coming from the person saying that the DPRK is “supposed to be an ML country”
I didn’t say that the DPRK were not Communist, though I’d also argue that any serious analysis of the history of the place, to the extent we have access to it( though lack of evidence doesn’t imply any positive conclusions either, something many people here also seem not to understand), also leaves much to be desired, though that obviously is materially very much a result of the incredibly difficult position they have always found themselves in.
Again, you are not actually making an effort to respond to what I’m saying, and you’re responding moralistically. You’re embarrassing yourself. Take the L and move on. If you can’t actually argue these points in terms of there content, but have to always retreat to a meta-position over the argument call someone a bozo, then that says a lot more about the weakness of what you’re saying than what I am saying.
You really need to get over this infantile idea that the only people who can any have any possible legitimate opinion on the place Fuck off with that reactionary nationalism. Since when has ever been the case in the history of communism? I guess Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin’s opinions on places they had never been were always totally incorrect then? You seem to be implying that when convenient. The only criterion is the arguments and evidence you have, and you haven’t provided any real substantial ones, making a bunch of simplications, and invalidly reasoning to conclusions that what you are saying doesn’t imply.
You want to know what communists from these places think? Again: please tell my comrades who have had their families raped, murdered and tortured by Islamists that they are not in fact reactionary or their enemies. You’re rather conveniently ignoring this point.
Even if (which I agree is a fact) the US-hegemonic Imperialist system is the primary enemy of communism in an overall sense, or the most powerful enemy of communist movements, and so there has to be anti-imperialism as a central focus of any leftist movement, and this has to recognize that otherwise deeply reactionary groups are currently the only armed means for opposing Israeli fascism, settler-colonialism, apartheid and imperialism, and that that implies that communists there have to cooperate (all of which is obvious and not what is up for discussion), you making the inference that this implies that there cannot be opposition to anything else more broadly, or that Communists should not clearly express their opposition to, and criticisms of, far-right theocracy because they are opposed to US imperialism, is so infantile and detached from reality that it honestly beggars belief. This isnt fucking hearts of iron. Some people are actually communists in these societies. Doing apologism for reactionary groups simply because they oppose the West is opposed to them is itself doing the anti-communist propaganda of the West for them.
Ohhh spicy drama, could you please repost the removed comment but I guess make it more palatable so I know what you 2 are arguing about?
It’s in the modlog if you wanna check. I’m not confident in my ability to rephrase what they said in a more normal way.
Learn to write, and then stop because your opinions are shit
nerd
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The Hamas style attack will be in retaliation for the Gangnam Style incursion of 2012.
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They’ve had it coming.
PSY is short for PSYOP because he tricked the westerners into thinking he’s just a viral pop singer. He’s in fact a high ranking Juche sleeper agent who almost got caught early in his career. He played us like a damn fiddle
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He was cooking ngl
headline is the beginnings of a tortured Felix bit that takes entirely too long but everyone lets it happen for some reason
Probably a good idea to call off any planned BTS concerts in the DMZ for the time being.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Sounds like South Korea needs to cool it with the anti-semitism
“we already have this bogeyman, how can we make it explicitly anticommunist?”
North Koreans don’t need to descend from paragliders. They will use necromancy to raise their soldiers who died in South Korea during the Korean War and attack it from inside.
What the fuck would they get out of it, geniuses
SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP OH MY FUCKING GOD!‘Taiwan’ fears Hamas-style attack from the west.
juche paraglider gang let’s go
Maybe…just maybe Isn’t Real’s unchecked genocidal tantrums is “complicating” things for those who are complicit with said genocidal tantrums?
But how real are these fears?
Not at all real
They have to play this word association game so that they can re-use their old propaganda to transfer negative feelings to
[insert current enemy].2086 Presidential Debates:
"First off, I would like to begin by denouncing my opponent for his ties to North-Korean style Satanic Fentanyl Cartels smuggling Migrants across the borders to enact their Putinist-Communist Islamic Radical Feminism in the hopes that every woman in the U-nited STates will have a spontaneous abortion so they can use the confusion to take our guns away. I yield the rest of my time. "
“I have never, nor will I ever be, a part of NKSFCMPCIRF. My friend across the aisle here, who I often see privately on his estate in Texas for drinks, is simply trying to smear my good name. In fact, my fellow Democratic congressmen recently approved funding for an array of autonomous hunter-killer drones to patrol the borders and inner cities for evidence of uncouth and uncivil behavior, which we all know is grounds for the immediate execution of any low-income offender. My hope is that we can perhaps work together on larger issues like the giant sinkhole that has opened up in the middle of the US, and is currently threatening the tectonic stability -” “HORSE SHIT! There’s no dang evidence of any pot hole, look I’ll call my sister in Nebraska right now, you’ll see.” “I completely concede my point, you’re absolutely right sir. Please take my wife too.”
