Fuck Trump, fuck Biden, and fuck Putin. They all fucking suck.
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Like Epstein?
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What about those of us who think both equally as bad?
One of them is currently enabling the genocide of Palestinians. I’m not American though.
Equally bad?? Putin is trying to criminalize LGBT+ right now. What is comparable to that that Biden has ever done? That is one thing, but we could go down the list if you want.
Supporting a genocide.
And that’s equally as bad as personally launching one in Ukraine? Do you see the difference or are we that tone-deaf? lol
It’s the same thing, but lol if you don’t think funneling billions in $$ and weaponry is playing a “passive” part.
To say that there’s no difference whatsoever is being a bit obtuse only for the sake of defending an argument to absurdity
Launching a war vs. funding a war is basically the same thing. There’s no moral high ground there.
You Americans are going to be constantly saddled with shit politicians. Your choice is Fascism or Fascism lite. Time for a revolution I’d say.
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What about
Either you all are being intentionally disingenuous, or you’re significantly misinformed. There’s a difference between passive support of a ally doing terrible things and actively starting a war yourself and doing terrible things.
Did you all suddenly forget about Ukraine?
Also, “supporting an ally doing terrible things” sure is a funny way of saying “enabling genocide of a people”.
Ah yes, let’s deflect from my point entirely. Such good faith conversation on your part.
What is your point?
Putin is bad, Biden is bad. For different reasons obviously. I live in Canada right now and I’d say Trudeau would be equally bad for supporting genocide.
Who did you serve with Ukraine? Where and when did you serve? Can you describe your station from memory?
STOLEN VALOR
My point is that you’re making a false equivalency by comparing the two and just saying they’re both bad. Adding Trudeau to the mix doesn’t change that. Sure, you can compare him to Biden, but comparing both to Putin is disingenuous.
It’s like saying a papercut and a severed artery are both bad. One is significantly worse than the other.
We’ll agree to disagree. Funneling money into genocide is not “papercut” levels of bad.
Again, you intentionally ignore the point of a comparison. Since you’re clearly not discussing in good faith, I’m gonna cut my losses. Goodbye.
I’m Ukrainian so it’s kinda hard to forget what Russia is doing to my people. I’ve fought against Russians.
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My condolences to you and your people. This is an outright atrocity that needs to stop ASAP.
Slava Ukraini!
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Nooooo?! People would just do that? Go on the internet and tell lies?!
Thanks.
Who did you serve with? Where and when?
Do you have proof of service?
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But bOtH sIdEs!!!1!!!
“Passive support for genocide” 🤨
It ain’t even passive though, where do you think they are getting all the money and equipment??
I’ll concede this point. I meant in the sense that we’re not sending American troops over there. But I’ll concede I could be wrong on that too.
I’m not going to defend any support in any scale, regardless.
The US has sent “advisors” by the way.
I wasn’t aware of that, thank you. I’m still not supporting any of it anyways.
Almost as if it’s in some countries’ interests for people to get distracted from following the war in Ukraine until Trump gets elected and that some people are deliberately using the situation in Gaza to do just that.
Honest question, is funnelling them money still passive support? I understand aid for Ukraine defending their soil, but I’m not ok with sending my money to help Israel do a genocide.
Thanks for being sincere. I only used the term passive in the sense that we’re not sending our own troops over to actively participate. I agree with you on the money transfer issue. I also consider it noteworthy that a lot of the legislation for Israel financial support not only excludes support for Ukraine, but requires the funds to be diverted from useful domestic purposes.
Fuck off Russian trash 🖕
Edit: this garbage “human” is lying to you about his Ukrainian service
Ukrainian my dude. I only kill Russians. Totally original comeback though…
How long have you lived in Canada?
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He’s Canadian. 🤦
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Idiot for taking a stolen valor troll at his word.
Why don’t you ask him where he fought in Ukraine? The names of his squadmates? Who his battalion commanders were and when they changed power? Why, whenever pressed, he says he fought in Ukraine and cannot prove his claims?
Congratulations, idiot, you let him punk your pink ass
Why would I believe he fought in Ukraine?
= Biden good?
No. He’s not good, just not the worst to anyone with a reasonable viewpoint. I don’t like him, but he’s ironically less terrible than most politicians, even those that claim to be to his left. As VP, he was often more left wing than Hillary and Obama on international issues. He came out in support of gay marriage before Obama, and has been more left wing as president. He’s less wealthy than previous presidents, and despite Republican attempts to find evidence of any short of corruption, Biden’s sins mostly come from incompetence. He was my last choice in the primary, but less because he was evil and more because he wasn’t good.
He’s fine. Everything that people whine about him is stuff all presidents have done and republicans have done worse through the last five decades if not more.
Yaaay! He’s about a good as all the good war criminals! 🥳 /s
My main concern isn’t even that he’s doing a good or bad job, it’s that he’s clearly a dementia patient and shouldn’t be in that position to being with. I had a grandfather who had alzheimers, which is a more severe kind of dementia that just gets worse, and having seen even a glimpse of it due to my parents keeping me out of view of the more severe “episodes”, I really think he shouldn’t be in office at all. Not to mention that dementia has a very high chance of turning into alzheimers, meaning that, if Bidens dementia does turn, he’s only gonna get worse and worse and worse until he can’t even make a sound.
I wanted to add this extra bit, it seems that Biden would be in the third stage of dementia, with symptoms being: Losing things and minor memory loss, getting lost while traveling, difficulty finding the right words, verbal repetition, and trouble with complex tasks and problem solving.
The office of the president is more than one person. It entails his cabinet and the rest of the appointment apparatus as well as any ramifications for SC nominations. You think the orange Twitter all caps guy with “look my uncle having known nuclear” is better? There are downstream effects that are real beyond this bizarre talking point about dementia that keeps getting parroted. At the minimum be consistent in your logic ffs.
Unless you want Russian victory in Europe and mass violence and perpetual domestic terrorism in the US 👍
Have enough guile to see past any impulse that didn’t come from, to you, any identifiable source. And if your impulses run categorically parallel to Russian propaganda, and make you behave like a Russian (rapists, sneak murders, child thieves by the 100,000s and counting; centuries of psychopathy) and you align yourself with the Kremlin, whether or not accidental, congratulations, you are a target of anyone with a soul who cares about the safety and prosperity of life on Earth and we will put you in the zone or the ground.
Everyday footage of the cleansing in Ukraine fills me with a dream for the liberation of the United States from the MPE (Mass Psychosis Event) we’ve been laboring through. With each day I can see the future is ready, willing and eager to be shaped by those willing to accept it on its terms, NOT the terms of a Demagogue or Despot.
Russia will not exist after 2100 because old school evil won’t survive the coming wave after wave of truth and consequences.
Notice that people who say Biden is ok are quiet about the Gaza genocide
That was an excellent comment.
Biden is a massive step up from Trump and honestly exceeding my admittedly low expectations, but he really dropped the ball with Israel.
Like I’ve said in other threads, I agree with you BUT people need to understand that Biden doesn’t have the political capital to stand up to Israel right now.
We’re on the brink of sliding back into Trump and who knows how fucked up we’re going to get, so he can’t be fighting another fire.
The US has always sucked Israel’s balls, so Biden is just not rocking the boat.
I know it sucks, but our shitty political system and the fact that the half the population has brain damage means, he has to tread very very carefully.
If he blows his little wad on Israel and Trump wins because of it, EVERYONE will be fucked around the world, including Palestine.
I know we all wish Biden could be the shining liberal giga Chad we want, but US politics allows only so much at a time. Hell, I think he’s done more than I would have hoped for and still part of his base is shitting on him for not doing enough…
I dislike the Russians just as much as Biden. Biden is just the one “in charge” of the country I’m in.
What do you have against Russians? I mean Putin got a few screws lose but otherwise they are alright
Eat shit Russia we all see you. Go drown in a puddle 🖕
A dog is better than Trump, better than Putin.
If you can’t see that, then you are an enemy of life, and many including this one.
I fight fascists every day.
I’m TIRED of weakness having such a loud voice.
I’m TIRED of our weakest showing their bellies and pussies to their would be killers and rapists on the Internet while real ass people fight in the street and in jails and in Ukraine.
I am currently incarcerated and will be released and will fight again and again and again and again
Fuck you weaklings, we will march over you too 😂
More powerful than you can imagine, completely ready to die, in love with death to get things done.
You deserve your misery, Russian.
Why the freaky anime biden?
He’s bout to use his biden blast.
TokenBoomer, are you feeling ok? You’re defending Biden, which is kinda weird
Edit: downvoters must not know TokenBoomer lol
I don’t think that’s the point.
The CIA got him, as we speak the real Boomer is taking the Black Van Tour
I’m fine. Just thought it was funny. Also, Russia can suck my 🍄. And Biden’s supporting a genocide.
There you are!
Was worried for a minute there!
Can suck your mushroom. I like that.
Good work (not /s)
Wait are some people actually pro biden? People like him?
Unfortunately, yeah standards have got that low
I held my nose and voted for him. All of the folks in my social circle did the same, as did most of my peers at work. Everybody hates him - actually seems like those of us that voted for him hate him more because we expected something useful from him and he’s given us jack shit fuck all. The couple of Trumpers in the office don’t seem to hate Biden nearly as much as all of us who voted for that worthless prick.
If it’s a choice between him or Trump yeah I’ll vote Biden again because that’s like asking would you rather forcibly be given herpes or have your dick chopped off and thrown in a camp fire. They both suck but I guess I’ll take herpes thanks
I’m pro-Biden. What a pathetic attempt to shame.
😎🍦
He’s actually done some good during his term, so yes. He’s done a ton to combat climate change, reinforced many govt agencies so they can actually serve their purpose,
Are there democratic candidates I would prefer over him? Absolutely. But this is politics, it’s all about realistic compromise. I’d rather have him than a traitorous conman spearheading a party of insurrectionists.
I do. No surprise billing, the omnibus bill, irs actually doing taxes, interest from student loan can’t go above original principal along with payments based on income along with forgiveness after 20 years. I can’t point to a president that has gotten more done that effect be personally in a beneficial way in my lifetime.
Trump was liable to say or do anything. He was a complete loose canon. It was terrifying.
Biden is boring. Boring is good. I’d rather be bored than terrified. Is he the best president ever? No. But is he better than Trump? Absolutely.
It’s not about boring and no one with at least half a brain cell thinks that the fascist is better. But you still don’t have to like the guy.
He continues with the Trump wall for crying out loud!
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Go die in Gaza genocider
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I think that living my last years in Sweden would be quite nice, actually.
Lol you win
So, about the “orc” thing… Was that about Russia, or something?
You mean “he honors Trump’s contracts that would cost the USA more to break”? And you’re going to ignore all parts of the wall they were able to cancel building?
I’m not gonna give kudos for a bare minimum of human decency.
There’s more Democrat bullshit that he did that I don’t know off the top of my head.
It has nothing to do with “kudos”, and everything to do with “the thing you’re complaining about is Trump’s fault, not his.”
Bitch about Biden, sure. But maybe bitch about things he’s done instead of attributing Trump’s fuckups to him.
Fuck you Russian troll
Fuck you IDF troll
My first Russian troll accusation 🥺
I’m honored
Nah, fuck both.
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😳 whoa
Fuck Biden and fuck Putin.
(Even though I did vote for Biden in 2020 and plan to again in 2024 if he’s the Democratic nominee.)
What’s the point of voting if there’s no good candidates?
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Because bipartisan is about voting for the lesser evil to ruin your life. Being complacent just relinquishes to an assurance it will be the shittiest because the bigger voting population are looking for the easiest way to fuck you up. Voting is that easy way for them. They don’t even care that they will be fucked over by it too. They just can’t stand someone out there will have sex with someone they did not approve of and apparently this is more important to them than accessible healthcare or slowing climate change.
Everyone has to either eat poop or glass. It’s going to suck either way but one way is going to significantly suck more than the other. Guess what? There’s a vote tomorrow and if you don’t vote then you might have to eat the worst one. Do you just not vote and prove a point to your non-existent audience or vote for the lesser of two evils?
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Exactly this. Fuck this lesser of two evils that I have to vote for because two party systems suck.
But no one is loud about that because it’s obvious.
That said, he’s done some pretty ok things in office. He’s just also done some pretty horrible things. Net net, I think it’s been mediocre.
If you think two party system suck, just don’t hope for a multiparty system. Those suck even more. You never know which idiot will end up building a coalition and coming to power.
yeah I don’t see much issue in that given the idiots we get now. At least the others have to juggle their coalition and are subject to no confidence votes and the opposition has a shadow cabinet ready to go.
The two party system also juggles coalitions, but we know them most popularly as voting blocks in the general population or caucuses in the parties. This is one of the reasons Sinema and Manchin held so much power from '20-'22. Our caucuses and voting blocks don’t always give power to individuals, but mostly to agendas.
This is a lie.
Could you point to an example of a multi party democracy that produced something as bad as trump? I’m not aware of any, but I’m not well versed.
Thatcher
literally Hitler
None of them - that weren’t from the largest party.
Basically, they got the same as first past the post Trump, but had to bring along less shit parties along instead of being a political mono-culture like FPTP creates. So even at their worst, they’re still better.
Netanyahu
Weimar Germany is the most obvious one.
Vote Nader
whats your measuring stick? mine is other presidents and by that he is near the top for me.
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It will be hard to make the people in power give us the tools to take away their power.
Strikes, occupations and uhm very persuasive in person arguments are some of the things that have worked historically.
Bringing a Constitution and Guillotine did work out in the end for the Danish worker’s movement of 1848, when the king conceded. A violent uprising was averted.
“Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian troll” such a shit tier DNC shill take. Next up whining about Bernie Sanders and dusting the Ruth baeder Ginsburg action figure.
Well that’s just wrong.
Russia genocide = bad Biden genocide = bad
There you go.
I hate Biden.
Russia is a horrible place for LGBT people and general dissenters. The draft and war has been disastrous for the economy. Russia having any clout internationally is mind boggling.
I hate Biden.
But how badly do you actually hate Biden? Plus Russia also sucks for its neighbors.
