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Is this true??? If so WHY THE F… ARE WR STILL USING THE CURRENT CALENDAR.
Honestly I would be all for a new calendar if this is true
The main hiccup is the system is off by a day. Some people “fix” this by saying the extra day should be “new years day” or something similar that exists outside the main calendar and doesn’t have an actual date or day assigned to it. Personally I think that’s kind of silly but it does work.
The second problem which to me is a much bigger problem, is he argues every month starting on Monday is a feature, I think it’s a bug. The result of this is every date is the same day, every year. If you are born on a Wednesday, your birthday will always be on a Wednesday. I like it mixing up and getting to have your birthday on different days.
Also almost everyone will have a new birthday they have to learn and too many people would simply be unwilling to go along with that.
And all that is ignoring the monumental task of changing every computer system in the world.
Edit: also 13 is just kind of a rubbish number to work with and doesn’t divide into anything nicely.
Same day every year is definitely a feature. Make holidays on Fridays or Mondays. Celebrate your birthday on Saturday if you want.
I will concede that it would make some things easier, like if someone says are you busy on the 5th, you can instantly know the 5th is a Friday or whatever. But I still don’t like it. And without researching in detail, I’m betting there are holidays, particularly religious ones, that wouldn’t be okay with moving the date to match the weekend closest to it for reasons.
Most religious holidays have already been moved people in three generations won’t care. Most will appreciate the weekend adjacent scheduling. Things like the Fourth of July can just be Independence Day like it already is.
Excellent discussion actually.
Yes, I am that guy but the word is ‘hiccup’, not hickup. Although, coming from a family of rednecks, this fits as we do tend to mess stuff up quite often.
You know, I knew that, and I really don’t know how that happened. In any case thanks.
The issue is that 13 is not divisible by anything, so we can’t split the year by halves or quarters like we do now.
Can’t be as bad as daylight savings though.
Sure you can, just not by months, you would need to use weeks instead to retain integer values. A half year would be 26 weeks and a quarter year would just be 13 weeks. Of course this fails if you wish to divide further, but at that point you could just say 2 months and people would know for certain you are saying 8 weeks.
Well, pregnancies are measured in weeks, so not that big of a leap.
Lousy Smarch
Well not exactly, this would require a leap month every so often
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Fuckn year we have now was made way back in Rome, it was made in a way so no governing body would have the responsibility to fix the calendar every year to catch up, it was made even if there is no proper nation it’ll still be accurate and be self sufficient
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I mean it also benefits salaried employees, 13 months means 26 pay periods
But you typically get paid an amount per year, divided between pay periods. You work the same amount, get paid the same amount overall, and get more pay periods at the expense of less pay per period
There’s the same amount of weeks though. It’s just spread over 13 months instead of 12 so it would be the same total bi-weekly pay periods.
Not necessarily, some companies do half way and end of the month instead of strict every two weeks so they can claim a consistent monthly wage
I came up with this independently years ago. It’ll never catch on for the idiotic reason that you can’t subdivide 13 like you can 12. 13 is a prime number, while 12 can be divided easily by 2, 3, 4, and 6. 12 is like the whore of simple math.
Yeah, but that only matters for months. We could instead just use weeks since there are 52 weeks per year, so a quarter would be 13 weeks instead of 3 months. It would be easier to determine how many weeks there are in a span of a couple months because it’s not variable, or any number of months because they’re just multiples of 4. I know a lot of people would be turned off by the system because the number 13 comes up so often and people are superstitious but it really would make things easier imo.
So funny thing I’m in a leftist discord and they convinced me that 24 hour time is better. I immediately switched to using it…
… And struggled to understand what time it was for months before switching back to my normal 12 hour clock. 😂Basically, while I would eagerly support calendar reform, I may find the change difficult.
I can’t understand why anyone would be confused by this. We learn about 24h time format in primary school! It’s also extremely easy to just subtract by 12.
I’m just american and didnt learn 24 hour time as a child. It is easy in theory, just old habits die hard.
I just thought of something that could be better,
Scrap months altogether, just divide the year into quarters of 13 weeks each, name them for the seasons, Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall, there isn’t really a reason why we need months specifically, if it’s to shorten date numbers then count by week number and day number
Day/Week/Quarter/Year
Today’s 7/8/4/23
I don’t like how I have to write another / and number. As a human, I am lazy.
That, and Americans would do something stupid like have it be quarter/day/week/year or something.
2023.04.08.07
ISO 8601 4 life
2023-04-08-07 my beloved
Year/quarter/day would be sufficient
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I mean it’s the same amount you were paying before so just save for it like you had before
Seasons vary by hemisphere, and it’s counterintuitive to force half of the globe to accept summer as winter or winter as summer.
Hey technically only 12% of the world’s population lives in the southern hemisphere. Nowhere close to half.
Nothing stopping the other half from just flipping it to match their seasons, that’s what they do already, and the number for date stays the same anyways
I work and converse with people globally, as much as I love the idea of being able to use seasons as a marker of time like that, it’s just not possible.
Now let’s work on names for this 13th month…
I have yet to hear anything better than Smarch
Onzember based on how the last few months starting with September are all just part of a number in Portuguese/Spanish (and maybe other languages) + ember. Ex: November = Nove + ember, Onzember = Onze + ember
Preferably year/quarter/week/day but good idea
nah hold on it has to be
day/quarter/week/year
/s
An eagle hatched as soon as you posted that comment.
So here’s what’d be a better alternative when considering seasons and quarters
March, June, September, and December are all 35 days long, every other month is 28 days long.
Day 365 is Year’s End Day outside of the Calendar months, and Leap Day is an additional holiday inserted before January 1st when it happens.
The last adjustment I’d make is the Saint Monday plan, which is to say, make Monday a weekend day.
It’s named after the moon, you see the moon at the end of the day, so the moon’s day is the end of the week!
Or you’d make every season and quarter just three months and one week. Seems easy enough to work with.
Fuck it, stop counting altogether, and call every day flobday
And remove daylight saving time. Now I have to explain that yes, the report is correct and there were in fact 25 hours on that day.
Happy flobday!
And tomorrow a good flobday!
Autumn and winter should be 5 days, rest should be split between spring summer half and half and then we would all be much more happier
And how exactly would changing the calendar have an impact on the seasons?
I’m proposing that June is 365 days long, and we just abolish seasons. Can’t believe nobody thought of this.
Leap days would still be in February, so don’t forget to keep your jacket for one day every four years
THERE’S 365 DAYS OF SUMMER VACATION AND SCHOOL NEVER COMES ALONG JUST TO END IIIIIIT
Schooooooooool’s out for summer
Unless you live in a district that ends it’s school year in mid June. Then you have to go to school until lunch on June 182nd.
itt: 13 * 28 = 365.25
It’s an incomplete explanation. You have New Year’s Day as an intercalary day, essentially January 0th creating a 3 day weekend. It’s either considered a Saturday or not assigned a day of the week at all. Leap days are either immediately after or inserted as June 0th the same way.
so it’s still full of arbitrary bullshit? “we’ll just have a day that doesn’t count every year and another day that doesn’t count every 4 years except when the year is divisible by 100”.
the idea here is that this system is more intuitive than our own, but it’s not.
No system can avoid arbitrary bullshit because the earth doesn’t go around the sun in an amount of time that’s an exact multiple of the time it takes to rotate.
Sounds like why fuck with it then. There’s a cost to converting that will be paid only to replace one set of arbitrary bullshit with another set of arbitrary bullshit. You can say you prefer one bullshit to another and no one can dispute you on that, but in the end it’s just one set of bullshit vs another and I’m already committed to the current one.
It’s probably too difficult to implement now because of computers being entrenched in the existing system. If we were going to implement it, it would have been 100 years ago.
Same issue with a dozenal number system…
The problem is that the earth doesn’t orbit around the sun in a whole # of days. A sidereal year is 365 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds, or 365.256 days.
Likewise, the moon doesn’t orbit the earth in a perfect whole # of days either. The moon takes 27.3 days.
Since we cannot change the orbital period or rotation of the earth, we are kind of stuck with accommodating the “arbitrary bullshit” of astrophysical bodies.
then, as I said to the last person who pointed this out even though my math implies that I already know it, why this new bullshit instead of the bullshit we’ve already implemented?
we need a decimal based clock like during the french revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
twelve months, each divided into three ten-day weeks called décades. The tenth day, décadi, replaced Sunday as the day of rest and festivity. The five or six extra days needed to approximate the solar or tropical year were placed after the final month of each year and called complementary days. This arrangement was an almost exact copy of the calendar used by the Ancient Egyptians, though in their case the year did not begin and end on the autumnal equinox.
A period of four years ending on a leap day was to be called a “Franciade”. The name “Olympique” was originally proposed[8] but changed to Franciade to commemorate the fact that it had taken the revolution four years to establish a republican government in France.[9]
The leap year was called Sextile, an allusion to the “bissextile” leap years of the Julian and Gregorian calendars, because it contained a sixth complementary day.
The prime factors of 365 is 5 and 73, hence a month should either be 73 days and there should be 5 of them, or there should be 73 months with 5 days each.
Mathematical perfection!
Problem here is there’s actually 365.25 days in a year, the .25 is why we have leap years.
The problem here is that 0.25 is actually an overestimate by about 3 in every 400 years. That’s why we don’t have leap years on every hundredth year, but we do have them again every 400. (And, of course, you can get even more precise than that.)
Yeah yeah Georgian reform. Problem it it breaks in 6500
Ok, thats fine, we’ll just… The factors of 365.25 are: 487¹×3¹×2⁻²
Wait…
Your mom has leap years
Yes also 364 days from 13x28 would not align with years around the sun. We’d still need a leap year with 5x73 but that’s easier than correcting from 364.
12x30, 5 or 6-day intercalary (government-mandated) days off for rest and celebration of Yule + New Year’s (just make them all December 31-35/6).
I agree with this! We should call the thirteenth month “Penisuary”
