I’ve heard it explained that “hey” used to be more of an urgent way to get someone’s attention, rather than a casual “hello” like it is now, so it sounded rude to some older folks.

  • @good_bot@sh.itjust.works
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    Teachers in 2023: “NOOO you can’t end your sentences with ‘fr fr nocap skibidi’ those aren’t even real words!”

    2033:

  • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    It was “yo” for me. Any time I used it some old shit would complain. My mom called it n-word speak. Me and my mom don’t talk.

    I use it daily, mostly out of spite.

  • @aulin@lemmy.world
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    62 years ago

    I’ve heard it explained that “hey” used to be more of an urgent way to get someone’s attention

    Used to?! O_O

    • @droans@lemmy.world
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      Still does, but depends on the emphasis

      “Hey aulin!” = Hello

      “Hey!/Hey, aulin!” = Getting your attention

  • @Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1022 years ago

    When I was a waiter, there was no shortage of boomers getting genuinely upset with me saying “No problem” as a reply to “thanks”.

    • Karyoplasma
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      122 years ago

      I had no idea that it’s considered improper. Online gaming is like

      thx

      np

    • @CaptFeather@lemm.ee
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      122 years ago

      Ugggggh I went through this with my (boomer) boss for years until she finally accepted it lmao. Then it was, “WORRIES, CaptFeather! WORRIES!” as a joke every time I said it lol

    • @edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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      I prefer to say no problem over you’re welcome cuz it always (to me) sounds sarcastic/disingenuous when I say you’re welcome

      • Captain Aggravated
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        It’s like this:

        You have a boss. A wrinkled plus-sized brown business jacket of a man whose idea of “cutting costs” is turning the air conditioner off. If he caught on fire, you wouldn’t piss on him to put him out. How do you address him? “Good morning Mr. Perkins, how are you doing today?”

        You’ve got a war buddy. You met at boot camp, you served in the same company, he splinted your leg in the field, you’re his kids’ godfather. You’d kill and die for this man. How do you address him? “Ah god not this fucking asshole again.”

        Official formal polite language like “Thank you” and “You’re welcome” is the pair of nitrile gloves I put on to handle the really noxious shit that comes my way. “w’thanks man” and “no problem” means I’m willing to handle you with my bare skin.

      • @EtherWhack@lemmy.world
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        22 years ago

        “No problem” also carries the implication that the favor was taken and done without ill will, where “you’re welcome” carries one of superiority

            • oce 🐆
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              I thought it was every day life politeness, but I am not native. I would rather expect “the pleasure is all mine, sir” at a 3 Michelin stars restaurant.

              • @ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works
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                12 years ago

                To me “you are welcome” comes off as taking credit for something minor and expected. No problem does the opposite. I prefer when people say no problem generally over you’re welcome. And that’s why it’s become more common in a day in age where people are expected to be less servile.

    • The Barto
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      72 years ago

      As an Aussie I don’t understand how people get confused by ‘no worries’ .

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        “No problem” takes “You’re welcome” and implies that it was of no inconvenience to you either. But I understand that older generations find it important that service workers be most humbly at their service, and adhere to a strict social etiquette just short of “Yes, m’lord” and “Shall I suck upon your dick, sir?”

        “You’re welcome” is more appropriate in a professional setting, but if you’re getting your jimmies in a rustle over someone saying “No problem” to you instead, you’re a bit of an assfuck.

        • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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          12 years ago

          If you are a service worker at a restaurant, then that is literally your job, to serve.

          I love it when I order a sandwich at my local banh mi place near my office and you can see the cashier literally eye roll every customer that orders. They can’t even look you in the eye…

        • Ramόn Sánchez
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          42 years ago

          I’ve never heard being polite described like that, oh my. 🤦🏻‍♂️

          • @soupcat@sopuli.xyz
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            22 years ago

            I don’t think either phrase is impolite. Good manners are a made up thing. If someone said ‘thanks’ to me and I said ‘tiddle dee dee’ I’m not being rude, just a bit weird, nobody’s honour has been questioned, I haven’t said anything that could be taken as an offence.

          • @ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works
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            It’s literally meanings of words strung together being described.

            You are welcome = you are welcome to my servitude

            No problem = I don’t mind doing this thing for you

            Oh you. 🤦‍♀️

      • @schmidtster@lemmy.world
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        82 years ago

        And why do people need to pander to you specifically? Cant people be themselves?

        Those are narcissistic traits.

        • Ramόn Sánchez
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          Who said anything about me, specifically? Saying “no problem” makes you sound insincere or that the task the customer asked you to do, was literally no problem and that’s the only reason you complied. There are all kinds of ways people can interpret that, but only one way to interpret “you’re welcome”.

          I’m not going to say anything if you say that, but don’t act surprised when older people aren’t as forgiving.

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            If someone says you’re welcome, you know they are a corporate drone and management wants them to say that to avoid certain people making a scene. Why’s it insincere to say no problem? In the same vein, they only said you’re welcome because they are complying too.

            There’s no issues with saying no problem unless you want there to be. Those are cool workplaces.

            • Ramόn Sánchez
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              22 years ago

              I just pointed out the problem. That phrase can interpreted many ways. We are also not talking about office buildings, we are specifically talking about the hospitality industry, where the language you use makes a significant impact on the customer’s experience.

              • @schmidtster@lemmy.world
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                42 years ago

                And so can you’re welcome. So why does it matter which phrase if both can be misconstrued?

                Language matters everywhere, who mentioned anything about an office building?

          • @scottywh@lemmy.world
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            42 years ago

            The implication is that a problem was assumed until “no problem” was stated.

            “No problem” is absolutely low key rude.

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            only one way to interpret “you’re welcome”

            This is just wrong. Tone matters just as much with “you’re welcome” as it does with “no problem”. Language is fluid like that, and it’s completely arbitrary to elevate one of these expressions over the other when both are in common usage.

            Also, you’re deliberately misrepresenting what “no problem” means, in regards to “that’s the only reason you complied”. Nobody says it that way, and I don’t believe that you think they do.

            • Ramόn Sánchez
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              12 years ago

              Using semantics to make your point, is lazy and misleading. Of course you could say “you’re welcome” in a tone that could be taken as rude, but that wasn’t the point. The point was showing the difference between the two phrases.

        • Ramόn Sánchez
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          12 years ago

          You’re right, why should words actually have an inherent meaning? 🤦🏻‍♂️

          • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
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            42 years ago

            They literally don’t (with the possible exception of onomatopoeic words), one of the defining factors of language is that it is arbitrary.

            • Ramόn Sánchez
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              It’s obviously arbitrary, given how we’re changing the meanings of words to fit the current narrative, but that doesn’t change anything.

              It kills me, that zoomers and young millennials think that it’s the older generation that’s the problem, rather than the generation complaining about how another generation reacts to certain words in certain atmospheres. If you can’t understand why they react that way, maybe you should be looking in the mirror instead of criticizing them.

              • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
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                32 years ago

                This is an old pattern, language changes. You can react to it however you like, but things have already changed in your lifetime. Wicked or hot, for example,

      • @Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Absolutely. I could understand it if it was a formal dining place I suppose. But it was a fucking Applebee’s in a 20k population town with one other restaurant lmao

        • @michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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          Applebees is Sit down McDonalds with better food. If one of your seating option is at the fake wood bar its not fine dining.

          • @Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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            A family member of mine briefly worked at Applebee’s. Literally everything is microwaved. I happened to get a Fettuccine Alfredo there and have one of the Marie Calendars frozen Fettuccine Alfredo meals (>$2 at the store) in the same week and realized once its plated you literally could not tell the two apart. Same quality, same quantity, but the store bought meal costs 1/5 the price and is somehow ready faster

  • Seraph
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    Y’all was different back then too. Now it’s the most neutral greeting and that’s really odd for my 90s brain.

    • The Picard ManeuverOP
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      112 years ago

      I will die on the hill that “y’all” is a more concise way to convey the same information than any of the alternatives.

      • FarFarAway
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        Tell that to every kid in Texas, that the teacher ever made write “yall is not a word” on the blackboard 100 times.

      • HopeOfTheGunblade
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        I haven’t gotten a chance to use it yet, but one day the construction “all y’all’d’ve” will be relevant in my life.

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          That not even uncommon in the south!

          “Let me try next. All y’all’d’ve been better off calling me in the first place.”

      • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        Many languages have a plural second person pronoun, English can too y’all. It’s a legitimately useful linguistic feature.

        • @NABDad@lemmy.world
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          42 years ago

          English used to have “ye”, but we dropped it. Then we all looked around wondering where it went and had to recreate it.

          “Y’all” down south. “Youse” in Philly, New York, Boston, etc. “Yinz” in Pittsburgh.

          I think “y’all” is the best choice. I’m not a fan of “youse”. “Yinz” doesn’t even deserve consideration in my opinion.

          Are there any others?

        • The Picard ManeuverOP
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          I think we used to, but it fell out of use. Now it rises again with the South. (Wait…)

  • crawley
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    hAy is for horses, hEy means hello, they’re literally different words.

  • @uis@lemmy.world
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    32 years ago

    What the hay?

    Frankly, I knew one person who replied “hey is how you call a horse”.

    • Flying Squid
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      82 years ago

      My daughter is not allowed to call me ‘dude’ or ‘bro.’ I don’t care if that’s old fashioned or closed minded of me. I like being called Dad or Daddy, and shouldn’t it be my choice what I’m called?

      • @Num10ck@lemmy.world
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        maybe depends on how old the daughter is?
        if she’s 6 then yes. if she’s 20? umm get over yourself.

        • Flying Squid
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          If she’s 20, I still want her to call me Dad. Why don’t I get to decide that?

          • @Num10ck@lemmy.world
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            32 years ago

            really its cultural and traditions vs modernity and respect vs loving, etc. maybe her showing what you feel is disrespect is her showing informal comfort. maybe if you want her to keep calling you at all in a few years you can love her as you find her. the world is harsh enough to teach her plenty without you being a bridge troll to her safe space.

            • Flying Squid
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              It has nothing to do with respect. I just want her to call me that. If she wanted me to call her by a nickname, I would.

  • @Agent641@lemmy.world
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    I fought in the hey/hay wars in my early childhood. Weost many good soldiers, but their sacrifice was not in vain.