This fucking sucks, the Great Satan needs to be forced to embrace the Great Seitan amerikkkavegan-seitan

(so does the rest of the first world but Great Satan/Seitan was funnier)

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    202 years ago

    as always, everyone associated with this should be executed right this instant

        • Omniraptor [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          yea this is one case where you/we (vegans) are obligated to do a bit. maybe not so far as to kill individual animals but definitely work to reduce their reproduction and therefore future population

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            32 years ago

            Didn’t the mass euthanasia of muscrats in Finland due to covid basically kill the industry overnight?

            Unless we’re going to somehow re-home millions of chattel animals, or release them to the wild where they’ll terrorize the local ecosystem I don’t really know that the solution is.

            Maybe maintain the farm until they die? But if it’s a battery farm then that’s not a way to live.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                32 years ago

                Yeah, which was kinda why I mentioned the effect that mass euthanasia had on the fur industry. The death machines have a lot of momentum, and that works both ways. They’re really hard to start back up if they are stopped.

            • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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              Theres 1.5 billion chickens in the United States. It’s hard to imagine.

              E: now that I can type a little more, Just going by the free range guidelines from the usda (generally focused on production instead of quality of life), they would need 345 thousand acres of forage land and half that much in coop space.

      • EffortPostMcGee [any]
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        The part I’ve just never understood is why that is a necessary position to hold for a ‘leftist’ political project to be not derided as incoherent/inconsistent, given by the fact that many/a majority of leftist political projects both contain non-vegan comrades that contribute/have contributed greatly to building left politics and of which those projects have not/ are not making veganism a large priority in their political project.

        Do vegans here and in other leftist places claim that the lack of their sufficient account for these two components is a factor contributing to why they have failed? Furthermore, do they believe that if current AES projects were to make veganism a priority, that this would weaken the influence of bourgeois thought and strengthen the revolutions occurring there? If so, that’s fine by me for vegans to hold that position, I just don’t really see then what distinguishes that from the same kinds of arguments that Ultra’s and Maoist’s make about past/current socialist projects and why it’s just veganism that can’t be derided for doing it.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    432 years ago

    They successfully got the masses to somehow believe in “clean coal” so honestly people will eat it up. If you can believe burning coal is clean you can believe anything

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    Will there be any mention of the 3 billion peasant farmers that constitute nearly half of the world’s population at Cop28? According to the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation, “about two-thirds of the developing world’s 3 billion rural people live in about 475 million small farm households, working on land plots smaller than 2 hectares.” Are they all supposed to be condemned to a life of modern day peasantry before capital eventually comes and eliminates their livelihood?

    The question raised here is precisely whether this trend will continue to operate with respect to the three billion human beings still producing and living in the framework of peasant societies, in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Indeed, what would happen henceforth, should ‘agriculture and food production’ be treated as any other form of production submitted to the rules of competition in an open–deregulated market, as decided in principle at the Doha conference (November 2001)? Would such principles foster the acceleration of production?

    Indeed, one can imagine some 20 million new additional modern farmers producing whatever the three billion present peasants can offer on the market beyond their own (poor) subsistence. The conditions for the success of such an alternative would necessitate the transfer of important pieces of good land to the new agricultural producers (and these lands have to be taken out of the hands of present peasant societies), access to capital markets (to buy equipment) and access to the consumer markets. Such agriculturalists would indeed ‘compete’ successfully with the billions of present peasants. But what would happen to these peasants?

    Under the circumstances, admitting the general principle of competition for agricultural products and foodstuff, as imposed by the WTO, means accepting that billions of ‘non-competitive’ producers be eliminated within the short historic time of a few decades. What would become of these billions of human beings, the majority of whom are already the poorest among the poor, but who feed themselves with great difficulty? Worse still, what would be the plight of one-third of this population (since three-quarters of the underfed population of the world are rural dwellers)? In 50 years’ time, no relatively competitive industrial development, even in the fanciful hypothesis of a continued growth of 7 per cent annually for three-quarters of humanity, could absorb even one third of this reserve…

    What was always overlooked was that capitalism, while it solved the agrarian question in its centres, did so by creating a gigantic agrarian question in the peripheries, which it cannot solve but through the genocide of half of humankind.

    • The Agrarian Question Beyond Neoliberalism: Essays on the Peasantry, Sovereignty and Socialism
  • happybadger [he/him]
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    282 years ago

    The files show how the world’s largest meat company, JBS, is planning to come out in “full force” at the summit

    Jesus, it’s JBS too. Deforest the Amazon for ranchers JBS. COP should be a list for the red guards.

  • pooh [she/her]
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    272 years ago

    We should start spreading more stuff online about how gross meat is. Because it is pretty gross. Like, imagine eating a dead animal’s butthole, because that’s literally what eating meat is all about.